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1. sw lt 6 The following screen a pop up window will appear asking you to choose where you would like to save your data If you want to save the data on a USB drive insert a thumb drive into the computer s USB port You can choose to save the data on the computer where the program is hosted but we do not recommend that option It is recommended to save the data on a device to which selected staff only has access Change the format of the file saved to Excel xls and enter a name for the file for instance SNS data 06 06 12 Hit Save www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT COMPLETE PDF MANUAL qu r21 060412 win Save in L zl E Recent Places Desktop Libraries Computer Network 7 The program will then ask you to specify a Worksheet name title Subject and Author This step is optional You can choose to fill in these cells or simply hit Continue and proceed to the next step qx 121 060412 win 8 On the data screen you will see two large boxes the variables collected by the program can be found in the right side box Select the ones that you want to see in your BE Desktop Name i Item type Libraries 8 Homegroup B soula jM Computer i Network i ICONS File folder MORE TO WORK ON File folder RESUME updated File folder Topic 2 File folder WEAVER starting ja File folder week 2 Fi
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3. as well Why Patients may feel that materials in medical settings are less clean and more likely to have germs These fears prevent parents from touching the computer and completing the survey Cleaning supplies nearby might reassure the parents that the computer is clean and so they may be more likely to use the program Make sure the program is ready to be used It is important to make sure that the program is accessible to parents and caregivers and to keep them informed that the program is available and running Why Safe N Sound SNS is hosted on a computer and some parents or caregivers may think a computer in the waiting room is not one they should touch The computer that houses the program should be inviting and should clearly state that parents should touch the screen to begin Advertising the SNS program Place SNS signs banners and flyers at eye level or where they can be easily seen Why When banners and flyers are placed too high they may not catch the attention of parents and caregivers If parents and caregivers cannot see the flyers and banners these tools will fail to direct them towards the location of the program Q Use a screensaver Using a screensaver on the computer hosting SNS will ensure that the screen never goes blank If the screen goes blank parents and caregivers may think the computer is not working or is turned off You might also put a sign on the computer saying that the computer should not be turne
4. information about Safe n Sound BROCHURE hito uz abnuit SICH This program is being tested locally at five pediatric office sites through the Carolinas Medical Center Safe n Sound is made possible through the cooperation of the Carolinas Center for Injury Prevention and the staff and medical personnel of the individual sites The development evaluation translation and dissemination are supported by the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development For more information please contact Carolinas Center for Injury Prevention 704 355 7098 LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT gt COMPLETE PDF MANUAL Why do injuries matter Thousands of children get hurt every year because of e Falls e Drowning e Burns e Poisoning Choking Suffocations e Car crashes These unintentional injuries are the leading causes of preventable death and disability in children in the United States Talk to your doctor about how to keep your child safe What YOU can do Take the Safe n Sound survey today DIG YOu Know lt Over 90 of these injuries in children under 5 happen at home In Mecklenburg County 150 children a year visit the emergency room to treat an unintentional injury 25 children a year die because of an unintentional injury There are many things parents can do to make their homes and cars safer 1 m om om oum um um
5. process and make sure the computer is functioning properly What are the next steps On this website you will find all the information that you need to start using the program And if you have questions please be sure to contact our staff via phone or email What 1s the evidence that it works What do professionals who have used think about it What type of computer do you need How do you save and run the program Where and how can you use it How do you download the data saved by the program Start exploring our website now to get the answer to frequently asked questions and more You can also watch a short video demonstration and then request the program for use in your hospital www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT gt COMPLETE PDF MANUAL SETTING THE REPORT TYPE There are two ways to use the Safe N Sound program the first way provides a 3 page report for the parent only The second way prints the same 3 page report the parent but also prints a fourth page which is a summary report for the health care provider You can choose which version of the program you d like to use by following the steps below You will only do this the first time you download and use the program 1 If you are on the survey page shut down exit out of the program This 1s what you should see on your screen de XIPTrans 11 16 2011 9 15 AM File folder DBEngine dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 6 044 KB 8 F
6. while still holding the SHIFT or OPTION key down Keep the SHIFT or OPTION key held down after hitting RUN until the following program icon appears at the bottom of the screen Click on the icon This will bring up the following data extraction page Your name might appear in the Account Name box zy Open r21 060412 win using ea Guest Account Account Name and Password Account Name Sara Password Change Password Enter tipadmin for both the Account name and password and hit OK www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT COMPLETE PDF MANUAL Open 21 060412 win using Guest Account Account Name and Password Account Name tipadmin 4 Once you type in admin for both username and password hit OK The following screen should appear asking 1f you would like to remove the doctor s page from the printout You might have completed this step already when you installed the program the first time If you would like to have the option doctor printout then mark include If you do not want the optional printout mark exclude 5 Locate the Tab File at the top left or Script 1f you are using a MAC of the computer screen Hit File and Scroll down to Export Records or Export Script if using a MAC and Select it www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT COMPLETE PDF MANUAL
7. 2 exe e program icon while holding the SHIFT or OPTION key Keep the SHIFT or OPTION key held down even after you Double Click on the program icon The following window will appear and you might think that the procedure did not work but it did www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT gt COMPLETE PDF MANUAL MORE TO WORK ON tip 060412 tip 060412 Share with v Burn New folder Name Date modified Type Size libcurl dil 6 8 2012 2 18 PM Application extens 201 KB amp libeay32 dll 6 8 2012 2 18 PM Application extens 1 114 KB s libetpan dll ices libsasl dll 6 t S MFCX dll NSViews dll 8 OmniDynamic4 dll 6 amp OmniORB4 dil 6 Do you want to run this file OmniThread dll 6 3 i Name ORK ON tip_060412 tip_060412 tip_060412 exe 6 Publisher FileMaker Inc ProofReader dll 6 Type Application SkiaDLL dll 6 8 20 From C Users soula Desktop MORE TO WORK ON tip ssleay32 dll 3 20 GY tip_060412 exe 20 5 20 Always ask before opening this file _ TIP_r21_060412_win fmpur amp ToolkitPro1122vc90U dll 5 ViewSystem dll 5 xalan c 1 11 dll i While files from the Intemet can be useful this file type can potentially harm your computer Only run software from publishers V youtrust What s the risk 5 c c c c d e XalanMessages 1 11 dll 3 Hit RUN
8. LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT gt COMPLETE PDF MANUAL Safe N Sound helping pediatricians and parents keep young children safer PDF Complete Manual INTRODUCTION TO SAFE N SOUND What is Safe Sound Safe N Sound SNS is a computer based program that parents can use to learn how to keep their young children safer from injuries The parent first answers questions on a kiosk laptop or other computer device and then receives personalized information about the steps they need to take to address their child s specific risks There are two versions of the report the first version provides a 3 pages report addressed to parents only The provider version prints out an additional fourth sheet that 1s addressed to the healthcare provider The hospital clinic can chose which version of the report they would like the program to print Instructions on how to set the type of report are available on the website When SNS is used in a medical setting the parent can talk about the report with their provider so that they can focus on the most important changes that the caregiver needs to make Previous research has shown that using information tailored to the specific risks of each parent is an effective way to encourage parents and caretakers to adopt safety behaviors and protect their children from unintentional injuries Why should hospitals adopt SNS M The program is adaptable Clinics can use a computer or a table to host t
9. MEngine dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 2 487 KB 5 FIMIOLE dil 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 102 KB TH FMP Acknowledgements pdf 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Adobe Acrobat D 97 KB FMRSRC dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 9 911 KB S FMI Wrapper dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 112 KB 8 libcurl dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 195 KB 8 libeay32 dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 958 KB 8 libetpan dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 481 KB 8 libsasl dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 195 KB 8 MFCX dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 107 KB 8 NSViews dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 49 KB OmniDynamic4 dil 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 1 477 KB 8 OrnniORBA dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 1 198 KB 8 OrnniThread dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 28 KB ProofReader dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 521 KB ssleay32 dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 187 KB 8 Support dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 1 487 KB y tip 052511 exe 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application 9 567 KB HP NAM 052511 U5R 11 16 2011 9 28 AM USR File 6 184 KB ToolkitPro1122vc90U dll 5 25 2011 4 09 PM Application extens 6 253 KB 2 Highlight the Safe N Sound SNS program icon similar to the one below tip 060412 exe Make sure you press on SHIFT first for around 5 10 seconds and then Double Click o
10. MPLETE PDF MANUAL PLAN DO STUDY ACT PDSA CYCLE The Institute for Healthcare Improvement offers the Plan Do Study Act PDSA cycle to help organizations start new programs It includes the following steps make a plan Plan implement the plan Do observe outcomes Study and make improvements Act How to apply PDSA to Safe Sound Plan Think about the best way to include the Safe N Sound SNS program in your hospital s activities Where will you put the kiosk How will you tell the patients and staff about the program Who will help to keep the program going Do First try it out on a small scale Start to provide SNS 1n one waiting room or office and see how it goes Make sure to follow your plan and keep track of things that go well or things that do not Study Collect information about how the program is used You might want to observe how parents use the program ask staff about their experiences with the program or review information collected by the SNS program Act Refine the use of the program as you need to For example you might find that that someone different needs to be in charge of replacing the paper or that you need to find a better way to ensure that parents complete SNS before they are seen The Institute for Healthcare Improvement has a number of tools to help organizations during the Study and Act stages These include tools for analyzing processes e g Cause and Effect Diagrams Flowcharts
11. about how to address important safety hazards M The program can be used towards a hospitals community benefit Most hospitals have an outreach program and it 1s very important for them to show that they are having an impact in the community Offering SNS is an easy way to document a community benefit SNS can also be linked to safety stores or used with existing educational programs M The program can be used in hospital promotional materials Parents love getting personalized information and really learn from simple steps SNS does not need to take the place of the standard brochures but because SNS 1s more relevant parents are more likely to read the material and decide to make changes in their home What is the report about SNS asks the parent or caregiver a series of questions and then prints a report that focuses on two of the most important injuries for that child Topics include Motor vehicle injuries O Falls including falls down stairs from furniture and windows Suffocation safe sleep and choking on food or toys O Poisoning from medication and household cleaners Drowning being left alone in the tub or standing water dangers Q Burns liquid burns and electrocution and fires How do parents use SNS Step Parents and caretakers use the computer to complete a survey about childhood injury risks The survey 1s specific to the age of their child between 0 and 4 Step SNS is programmed to do the followi
12. alanMessages 1 11 dll 6 8 3 Hit RUN while still holding the SHIFT key down Keep the SHIFT key held down after hitting RUN until the following program icon appears at the bottom of the screen Click on the icon This will bring up the following data extraction page Your name might appear in the Account Name box Guest Account Account Name and Password Account Sara Password Change Password www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT COMPLETE PDF MANUAL Enter tipadmin for both the Account name and password and hit OK Open 21 060412 win using Guest Account Account Name and Password Account tipadmin Change Password 4 The following screen should appear and you can make your selection File Edit View Insert Format Records Scripts Window Help 5 Close the application and reopen it by simply double click the application www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT COMPLETE PDF MANUAL DOWNLOADING DATA TO EXCEL The data collected by the program can be downloaded into an Excel sheet by following the steps below 1 Shut down Exit out of the program This is what you should see on your screen 2 Highlight the Safe N Sound SNS program icon similar to the one below Make sure you press on sine a MAC for around 5 10 seconds and then Double Click on the highlighted u XTPTra
13. d off Why Parents and caregivers will not go to a computer that looks like it is off or not working and will be less likely to use the program Attract attention Use short prompts and bright colors to advertise the program Why Signs and flyers used to encourage parents and caregivers to use the program and direct them towards the program should be short easy to read and brightly colored Signs that are too wordy or not visually pleasing do not catch the attention of potential participants and can delay or lower participation You can find sample signs on the website O Use a gift Provide a small gift such as a pen or magnet for parents and caregivers who use the program These can be purchased from our website or you can use your own www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT gt COMPLETE PDF MANUAL Why Knowing that there is a reward after completing the questionnaire encourages participation and shows appreciation The gift does not have to be expensive Advertise the program If it is possible advertise the program in hospital wide marketing materials such as hospital newsletters and brochures sent to donors or patients Why Parents and caregivers can be distracted when they are in the hospital or clinic It is important to direct their attention to the program so that they know it s an important part of their visit www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT CO
14. er of the fields you would that you would like to export You can always add or remove the fields you are exporting You can choose fields form the layout or the entire table The programmed saved lists include the variables that are mostly likely needed for program evaluation or analysis If you would like to add more you always can at a later point however the list that is programmed stored will remain the same 21 062212 win amp JL ol a 008 Las Specify Field Order for E xn Select and move the fields to be exported If you want to group data choose the Group by fields before moving the other fields doc printout select IC C NENNEN GlobalGraphics SplashScreen Back GlobalGraphics StartButton Field export order ABUELO ABUELA action Move All AGARRARLO_AGARRARLA age_catagory Clear All AHOGARSE RM AL ALA ALEJADO ALEJADA ALZARLO ALZARLA Options Apply current layout s data formatting to exported data C 9 That was the last step You should now be able to see the dataset where you saved it Click on the USB drive usually drive E or the location where you chose to save your data and make sure you see the excel data file listed and the data has been extracted www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT gt COMPLETE PDF MANUAL 10 The computer you re using for SNS may not have Excel so you mi
15. es less time to reload the trays How can we make sure that all of our eligible patients use the program Make sure that staff and providers encourage parents Parents and caregivers will participate more when staff members and providers encourage them Once providers get in the habit of using the report to guide their conversation with the parent this will become another part of the clinic flow Why Parents and caregivers often trust their providers and hospital staff Encouraging parents and caregivers to use the program sends a message that it is useful worthwhile trustworthy and legitimate If staff or providers do not draw attention to the program parents might simply ignore the computer Remember in many settings it is still not very common for patients to interact with a computer O Choose the best place Place the program in an open area away from other people but still close to the registration area Why Most parents want some privacy when they are using the computer to answer questions Some parents will be too uncomfortable to take the survey if strangers are close to them while they are answering www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT COMPLETE PDF MANUAL 9 Make sure the area around the program is clean Consider placing wet wipes near the computer for parents and caregivers to clean the keyboard before taking the survey and to show that the computer is regularly cleaned by other users
16. gathering data e g Sampling working in groups e g Affinity Grouping Multivoting and documenting work e g Project Planning Forms http www ihi org IHI Topics Improvement ImprovementMethods Tools www safensoundallaround com 1 Ask a member of the clinic staff about Safe n Sound 2 Complete a 5 minute computer survey about things you do to make your home and car safer 3 The computer will look at your answers and you will receive a printed safety report 4 Your safety report will Tell you the two biggest injury risks for your child Provide tips for keeping your child safe 5 Pediatricians will also receive your safety report This will help your doctor give you the information you really need about home and car safety Safe n Sound is a computer program that asks parents about the things they do to make their homes and cars safer for their child The computer program then provides a personalized safety report for parent and their doctor Parents get only the safety information they need Doctors know where to focus their talks about safety The goal of Safe n Sound is to make parents more aware of their child s biggest injury risks and give them the information they need to make their homes and cars safer Safe n Sound also hopes that parents and doctors will talk to each other about the safety issues that matter most to each child 1 Ask at the front desk for more
17. ght need to take the USB drive to an office computer to see the data Also we found that sometimes there are some issues with the cells in excel when the data 1s exported If you are using excel we suggest that you format the cell into a number and see if that displays the right format You might also need to stretch the width of the column to see all of the information www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT gt COMPLETE PDF MANUAL PPT FOR TRAINING www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT gt COMPLETE PDF MANUAL USERS TIPS FOR PROGRAM SUCCESS What can we do to make Safe N Sound user friendly for parents and staff How can we make the program easy for our staff Have one person in charge Assign a specific person to be responsible for keeping the computer program running This person will be in charge of replacing the paper ensuring that the computer is turned on at all times and doing routine checkups and any program updates Why Putting a group of staff members in charge makes the process less efficient and sometimes one staff member thinks another is taking care of things When everyone is busy it can be hard to remember who is in charge of what tasks Store the supplies nearby Store paper under the desk or close to the computer or printer if possible Why Keeping the replacement paper close to the computer and printer is less of a hassle and tak
18. he program SNS can also be used in different types of clinical or community settings It does not need a lot of attention and maintenance from staff members M The program can be used now SNS can be downloaded and used immediately The injury prevention program staff does not have to develop any of the materials that are used and the program does not need any special software to run M The program collects data you can use SNS can be used as a health risk assessment tool It collects data that you can download into Excel and use to learn more about your clinic population This data can be used by hospitals for many purposes including improving current injury programs M The program is easy to use Hospital and medical settings can use SNS as an independent program It can be used in settings with a smaller or less experienced staff The program also comes with a user s manual and other supporting documents to help hospitals that want to use the program www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT gt COMPLETE PDF MANUAL M The program can be used for outreach SNS can be used on laptops and be taken to health and injury prevention programs in the community M The program can assist providers SNS can help support the anticipatory guidance of pediatric clinic staff and providers Rather than taking time to discuss things that the parent is doing well the report can help the pediatrician spend more time talking
19. le folder File name Save a8 pe After saving F Automatically open file E Create email with file as attachment 7 Use field names as column names in first row Worksheet Title Subject Author Excel Data Sheet and Hit Export Please note that the program collects a lot of variables some of which will not be useful You can refer to the code book for a detailed description of the variables in the Excel Spreadsheet that we recommend or assess might be useful to you The most important Date modified 6 4 2012 4 45 PM 6 8 2012 2 18 PM 3 20 2012 9 04 P 6 4 2012 10 10 6 7 2012 11 00 6 7 2012 4 01 PM www safensoundallaround com Lo je jes ACEI LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT COMPLETE PDF MANUAL variables that are will help you know about the risks for children in your setting are QUESTION Q 001 to QUESTION Q 050 excluding the variables that are labeled as tailored or copy These are the variables that you will most likely want for program evaluation In addition you will probably want to export the demographic variables in order to describe the group of parents that has used the program in that setting There are different ways to export the fields using the Group by and Field export order options If you have summary fields variables in your tables you can export records by grouping them together Use Field export order to arrange the ord
20. n the highlighted program icon while holding the SHIFT key Keep the SHIFT key held down even after you Double Click on the program icon The following window will appear and you might think that the procedure did not work but it did www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT gt COMPLETE PDF MANUAL MORE TO WORK ON tip 060412 tip 060412 Share with v Burn New folder Name Date modified Type Size libcurl dil 6 8 2012 2 18 PM Application extens 201 KB amp libeay32 dll 6 8 2012 2 18 PM Application extens 1 114 KB s libetpan dll 6 8 2012 2 18 PM Application extens 480 KB bass libsasl dll 6 8 2012 2 18 X 8K MFCX dll 6 8 2 NSViews dll 6 8 2 OmniDynamic4 dll 6 8 20 amp OmniORB4 dil 6 8 2 Do you want to run this file OmniThread dll 6 8 20 Da CE Name ORK ON tip_060412 tip_060412 tip_060412 exe 2 openssl dll 6 8 20 HieMaher tac amp ProofReader dll 6 8 20 Type Application i amp amp SkiaDLL dil 6 8 2 From C Users soula Desktop MORE TO WORK ON tip ssleay32 dll 6 8 2 E I tip 060412 exe 6 8 2 TIP r21 060412 win fmpur 6 8 2 Always ask before opening this fie ToolkitPro1122vc90U dll 6 8 2 8 ViewS dil 6 8 i While files from the Intemet can be useful this file type can mE potentially your computer Only run software from publishers 18 xalan c 1 11 dll 6 8 youtrust What s the risk X
21. ng M Determine the two highest priority injury risk areas for each parent child Provide customized injury prevention messages for these two specific risk areas Step SNS prints a safety report for parents and caregivers that contains information tailored to the answers they provided Step Clinics can also decide to use a version of SNS that prints a safety report for the provider How does SNS help the parents www safensoundallaround com LOCATION OF THIS DOCUMENT USER S TOOLKIT gt COMPLETE PDF MANUAL The program has been shown to be more effective than standard educational brochures in increasing injury prevention behaviors The program has been tested in several different settings a detailed research summary 1s available on the website The goal of SNS 1s to make parents more aware of their child s biggest injury risks and give them simple easy to understand information they need to make their cars and homes safer What did we learn from the other hospitals that used SNS A small study in North Carolina identified some of the factors that facilitate and complicate the use of SNS The program is flexible it increases the contact time of patients and caregivers Patients also had a higher opinion of health services provided after participating On the other hand the study also showed that it might take time for parents to get used to the program a limited number of staff members need to invest their time to manage the
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