Comments on ISO Committee Draft 3901 (2nd)
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1. Arranger s Text writer s lyricist Language Publisher in the country in which ISRC is generated if know Artist information pop Main artist s Featured artists Session artists Artist information classical Soloist s Ensemble Performer s Orchestra Conductor Chorus or vocal group Chorus conductor master Other comments IMI Indian Music Industy submitted via IFPI We have gone through the document and request for your response on the following points a In order to distinguish between audio and audio visual recording a standardised method may be suggested b The primary purpose of ISRC is to identify the digital recording during its life time The ISRC number will not change if the copyright owner changes without any change in the recording We shall be grateful if you clarify how ISRC can help in royalty accounting to the owners assignee or transferee in such a situation c May we request you to forward us the specified format for exchange of ISRC information between Registrants and National ISRC Agency ISO TC 46 SC 9 N 264 1999 04 27 Swedish ISRC Agency submitted via IFPI An update and a few comments on ISRC from the Swedish IFPI Group We still allocate ISRC first owner codes for both audio and video All members encode their phonograms and videograms might be 90 of the videograms Talking about the non member companies we have pretty good contact with them most of the companies with regular2. s note see also Russian comment below and Polish comment about remastering under section A 2 Modified versions Russian Federation GOST R 2 There are some doubts about what product exactly is to be registered the final commercial product obtained as a result of audio video work recording or by itself an individual mastering process of recording which is not identical but only is turned into a commercial product Normative references France AFNOR To be amended ISO 3166 1997 ISO CD 15706 ISO TC 46 SC 9 N 264 1999 04 27 3 Definitions France AFNOR We propose to keep the definition of ISO 3901 1986 i e Add 3 5 Year of reference the year in which the recording process is completed 3 2 music video recording Recording Industry Association of Japan RIAJ submitted via IFPI Territorial issue to be caused by ISAN RIAJ considers ISO should not allow a registrant to assign both an ISRC and an ISAN to the same audio visual recording and manage it by overlapped means It is because if we assume that ISAN will identify a recording at the same level or layer as ISRC the overlap in the management will cause both coding systems inefficiency in their implementations also cause both owners of recordings and users confusion ref ISBN or ISWC for different levels of identification From such viewpoint RIAJ considers the definition of music video recording in the section 3 2 is inadequate for the
3. production of phonograms are members of our local society but those who more sporadically produce phonograms do take contact with us to get a first owner code Today we have allocated close to 400 first owner codes in Sweden Members of the national group are 55 individual record companies Our database contains ISRC fields We have a new database for the use of ISRC in connection to our work with rights administration collecting society We do not get the ISRC automatically but when we ask for the codes we often receive the information electronically We are having problems with collecting the ISRC codes in order to build up our ISRC databases We constantly have to remind the companies Do you know if the situation is the same for all ISRC agencies or is it not common to collect the codes Of course a database with ISRC codes is valuable information in itself but our goal is combine it with the administration of remuneration to rightowners This has so far been the main reason for the record companies to put codes on the phonograms and videos but the longer it takes for users broadcasters to start reporting the codes the harder it will be to uphold the interest and motivation to code the recordings The administration savings could be quite big for both rightowners and users if the system was in use We really hope that the work with watermark will be successful so that we can see some practical use of the ISRC
4. 5 2 National ISRC agencies German ISRC Agency submitted via IFPI The German group is wondering why under point A 5 2 national ISRC agencies should annually notify of first registrant codes Furthermore it wonders why under point A 5 3 the notification of in college recordings is necessary It was already available in phono net Other annexes France AFNOR Furthermore we suggest to add an annex designed as Annex D of CD 15706 ISAN Support information for registration of a recording In order to adequately describe the specific recording to which an ISRC is allocated registrants shall supply the ISRC agency with a specified amount of descriptive support information about the recording registered These information shall be maintained by the ISRC agencies The specifications concerning the type and format of this support information should be established in accordance with the IV 6 chapter of the Practical guide 2nd edition 1992 published by the International ISRC agency Recording information Recording format audio audio visual Recording system mono stereo analogue digital P date year date of first publication Place of recording place where the majority of recording costs are incurred Playing time Producer the artistic supervisor Engineer ISO TC 46 SC 9 N 264 1999 04 27 Re mixer the person who manipulates the original master tape to change the final balance of recording Work information Title Composer s
5. 9 ISO International Organization for Standardization ISO Organisation internationale de normalisation TC 46 Information and Documentation TC 46 Information et documentation SC 9 Presentation Identification and Description of Documents SC 9 Pr sentation identification et description des documents ISO TC 46 SC 9 N 264 1999 04 27 TABLE OF REPLIES for ISO Committee Draft 3901 N 257 Information and documentation International Standard Recording Code ISRC P Members of Approve Disapprove Abstain Comments ISO TC46 SC9 22 Australia Canada China P R Czech Republic Denmark Finland France Germany Hungary Italy Japan Netherlands Norway Poland Portugal Russian Federation South Africa Spain Sweden U K U S A Additional comments IFPI and the national ISRC agencies for Japan India Sweden and Germany received from NC Cuba approval ISO TC 46 SC 9 N 264 1999 04 27 Comments on ISO Committee Draft 3901 2nd International Standard Recording Code ISRC Committee Draft 3901 2nd was distributed on January 6 1999 as document TC 46 SC 9 N 257 General comments Czech Republic CSNI Owing to the change of the structure of ISRC we suppose that the new edition of the user s manual will explain what will be with the ISRCs already assigned how it will be enabled to use them also in the future Poland PKN Controlling ISRC usage According to 4 2 registrant code is assigned t
6. ISO TC 46 SC 9 Secretariat ISO TC 46 SC 9 Secr tariat National Library of Canada Biblioth que nationale du Canada Telephone T l phone 395 Wellington Street 395 rue Wellington 819 994 6939 Ottawa CANADA Ottawa CANADA Fax 819 953 0291 K1A 0N4 K1A 0N4 Internet iso tc46 sc9 nlc bnc ca Web site lt http www nlc bnc ca iso tc46sc9 index htm gt ISO TC 46 sc 9N 264 1999 04 27 To Members of ISO TC 46 SC 9 International ISRC Agency IFPI Selected liaison organizations cc C Deschamps ISO TC46 SC9 Chairperson S Clivio ISO Central Secetariat SUBJECT Results of voting and comments on ISO Committee Draft 3901 2nd Information and documentation International Standard Recording Code ASRO The attached document shows the results of voting and comments on the second ISO Committee Draft 3901 TC 46 SC9 N 257 CD 3901 is a revision of ISO 3901 1986 the ISO standard for the International Standard Recording Code ISRC ACTIONS REQUIRED e For immediate distribution to delegates to the May 1999 meeting of ISO TC 46 SC 9 e For response by the International ISRC Agency IFPI and the project leader e For discussion on May 18 1999 during the ISO TC 46 SC 9 meeting in Paris France This document and a copy of CD 3901 2nd are also available on the ISO TC 46 SC 9 Web site at lt http www nlc bnce ca iso tc46sc9 3901 htm gt With regards original signed by Jane Thacker Secretary ISO TC 46 SC
7. astering A 2 1 Russian Federation GOST R Why it is said only about sound recording in A 2 1 Probably it should be said sound recording or music video recording A 2 2 Recording Industry Association of Japan RIAJ submitted via IFPI Section A 2 2 RIAJ considers for the future we should take account of music distribution on digital broadcasting and electronic file delivery system as well as physical carrier Accordingly RIAJ would like to propose modifying the head of the sentence as follows Changes in the physical and or electronic carrier A 2 3 U S A ANSI NISO This text should be clarified The following text is suggested Recordings of live events are to be assigned ISRC s in the same manner as are studio recordings Recording Industry Association of Japan RIAJ submitted via IFPI Section A 2 3 RIAJ has gotten some strange feeling by the part recording of live events should be treated as studio recordings because it might be unclear Accordingly RIAJ would like to propose modifying the whole sentence as follows For the purpose of ISRC assignment recordings of live events should be assigned a separate ISRC in the same manner as studio recordings ISO TC 46 SC 9 N 264 1999 04 27 A 5 Administration of the ISRC system A 5 1 International ISRC Agency Czech Republic CSNI To make the text clearer it should be said by whom the International ISRC Agency is appointed A
8. clear why nonmusical movies and other nonmusical audio visual recordings should be excluded from the system of registration If IFPI being the ISRC Agency is not ready to operate within such a diaposon sic disposition of recordings then this diaposon sic should be limited with some reasonable criterion A musicality or a melodiousness could become some of them In that case the ISRC should be extended to music audio recordings and music video recordings as well Auditivity could be chosen as a criterion too In such a case the standard should be extended to sound recordings and to those audiovisual recordings which possess the sound component capable to be named as a leading one more essential from the point of view of informational or feature content In any case such sort of definition of the application sphere should be explained clearly Russian Federation GOST R U S A In the text of the standard the ISRC operation sphere should be differentiated from the adjacent spheres ISMN ISWC etc ANSI NISO Does this standard apply to what the Anglo American Cataloging Rules 2nd edition calls a nonprocessed sound recording i e a noncommercial recording that generally exists in a unique copy Such recordings do not go through a full mastering process so it is assumed that the standard does not apply to these recordings If that is the case then this exclusion should be explicitly stated Secretariat
9. o producer once at the beginning and after this time ISRC National Agency has almost no possibility to control use of ISRC In case of any mistakes or incorrect usage of ISRC the standard described in ISO CD 3901 gives no way of solving the problem 1 Scope France AFNOR We propose to add at the end of the first paragraph The purpose for the unique identification of recordings or part of a recording Czech Republic CSND Paragraph 3 In the listing of institutions storing the recordings identified by ISRCs the libraries are missing But even the libraries could store the recordings Therefore we recommend to add them to the text as it was in the original edition Russian Federation GOST R The careful analysis of ISO 3901 and the drafts of its revision reveals that the sphere of application of the Standard remains uncertain Regarding to its text the Draft extends its sphere of application to all sound recordings as well as to audio and videorecordings but of musical works only This inclusion seems to be illogical and gives rise to questions What is the definition of audio visual recording Does a musical movie by itself present 1 ISO TC 46 SC 9 N 264 1999 04 27 an object forming a part of the application sphere of this Standard If the answer is yes then where the distinction between a musical movie and a movie with musical accompaniment should be drawn But even if such a distinction is found it ll stay un
10. onent is not always available e g recordings of live events Accordingly RIAJ considers it is preferable to remove the NOTE 3 3 recording Czech Republic CSNI In the listing of carriers the videos are missing We recommend to present them here as it is in the rest of the text 4 3 Year of reference element Australia SAA Australia does not agree to the circulation of the draft as a DIS This standard does not address the Y2K problem This standard has been drafted so that it allows for only two digits in the year field U S A ANSI NISO The year identifier should be expanded to three or four digits France AFNOR We suggest to modify as follows The year of reference element should identify the year in which the recording process is completed For backstock numbering the year of reference should identify the year in which the ISRC is allocated to the recording Annex A Guidelines for the application of ISRC A 1 General principles for the allocation of ISRC A 1 7 Czech Republic CSND A 1 7 The text following the first sentence beginning with However until the end of the paragraph would be more suitable for the user s manual It describes practice of assigning the ISRCs in too much detail ISO TC 46 SC 9 N 264 1999 04 27 A 2 Modified versions Poland PKN Remastering There is quite common problem of remastering of old recordings Should we assign a new code to a track after re m
11. purpose to avoid the overlap and confusion mentioned above Accordingly RIAJ would like to propose adding the following sentences in the section 3 2 While a border of territories between ISRC and ISAN is vague an ISRC shall not be overlapped with an ISAN in assignment To avoid inefficiency and confusion in implementation it is recommended that a registrant decides a clear rule beforehand to apply each coding system to the management of their recordings see revised wording proposed by IFPI below Also RIAJ considers the same content of the above sentence needs to be involved in the ISAN standard document ISO CD 10956 sic i e 15706 Addition by the International ISRC Agency to the above comment from RIAJ In our opinion no 1 i e above comment from RIAJ should have the following wording Registrants should ensure that when an ISRC is allocated no similar identifiers should be used Recording Industry Association of Japan RIAJ submitted via IFPI Section 3 2 NOTE In many countries and regions rights in audio visual recordings are distinguished from those of audio recordings Thus there are cases when it is hard to release the audio component of a music video recording as a separate sound recording by only a record producer s intention It depends on a contract between an artist and a record producer on ISO TC 46 SC 9 N 264 1999 04 27 production of a music video recording and releasing such audio comp
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