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1. 2000 PRINT PRINT GOODBYE SEE YOU AGAIN NEXT YEAR GOTO9998 END Next add the following line to the program 9998 RUN L Then add this line 9996 SAVE FESQUEST BAS Now type GOTO 9996 Your modified program will now be saved and you will return to LogiCall Leave 9997 unused in case LogiCall is not on the current disk due to the disk being full and you need to direct the program to a different drive For example if your LogiCall program disk were in Drive 0 you would want to add 9997 DRIVE 0 to call LogiCall located on drive 0 Some game programs prompt the user for a response This might be a good way to leave the game Go into the program to find where you are getting prompted for a response Add another possible response like Q for quit Then if you respond to the prompt with a Q the program can be made to GOTO9998 and return to LogiCall Turtle Graphics By John Mark Mobley Bill Pierce Chris Osborn Bill G David McNally Mathieu Bouchard and Theodore Alex Evans The following messages are from the CoCoList From John Mark Mobley Subject Coco Turtle Graphics am looking for material for the next Glenside Color Computer Club Newsletter Consider if you would like to write or contribute to an article on turtle graphics Turtle graphics is available in the Python programming language Perhaps the DECB Draw command has some turtle graphics capabilities Perhaps someone knows of a turtle gra
2. Glenside Color Computer Club Inc Carpentersville Illinois Yolume 33 Number 3 Autumn 2013 CaCe 123 Memor Map Routines Address oe iy E ta oe al aA raTa AA Ta rE A E T A EE T E N T A Er NT 1 E R D L a a Ta G FA BLE a A agp cp tence nose pm eee gi lg we nce inne geoph 2 GABE VEOH CELFTELOS foime a i nn A E nA cea AOE A E Breen 2 GOP Tee Be Gee Eee PASIE annen anaa aaae 2 E E Bey a cal lcs 5 a ara a i E E T EO E From the President s Platen wee a a aaa aa aak a a aa aE 2 Treasury NOtEe usan ahem pe Ase as a vera aA BARS aE a SPC EER ar Beech saan Pal ke AAE Dob woah aac ces Boe 2 Pee Gere TEAL EGO eanan a ce mee a 3 eee EE Ea aces T a E RR PACA FER TR a WIC aT SS EO EEN a Report Vintage Computer Festable Midest 2013 CoCoFEST 2014 Information The 5 Wa assan ssns 14 Calendar of Events Upcoming Events The 23 Annual Last Chicago CoCoFEST April 26 27 2014 Regular meetings every znd Thursday Schaumburg Library G C C C OFFICERS Here is the list of 42013 club officers and how to contact then If you have questions about the association call one of the officers for the answers POSITION HAE PHOHE PRIMARY FUNCTION President Tony Podraza o47 d26 3576 The buck stops here Vice President Chris Hawks 615 945 4690 Meeting planning etc Treasurer Geo Schneeweiss 615 832 4441 Dues and Purchasing Secretary Boh Swoger 30 37 7957 Records and Reporting Director Tony Podraza od7 de0 3576 ColoFEST Organizer Lib
3. turtle penup time sleep 7 Program output From Mathieu Bouchard Subject Re Coco Turtle Graphics gt This is my Python Turtle Graphics Program gt import turtle gt import time gt turtle pendown gt for ain xrange 8 gt turtle left 45 gt turtle forward 50 gt turtle penup gt time sleep 7 Reminds me of my _ Ruby Tk program named TkKTurtle rb which wrote in 2001 After starting it you d write this on the prompt to draw the same octogon no need to penup pendown in this case 8 times It 45 fd 50 which is very close to ColorLOGO s REPEAT 8 LT 45 FD 50 It s available at http blade nagaokaut ac jp cgi bin scat rb ruby ruby talk 15217 There has been at least another turtle library for Ruby since then but I ve never tried it and think that it s quite recent also think that it s closer to Python s whereas my inspiration was really just ColorLOGO though didn t really mean to replicate the language just the turtle From John Mark Mobley Subject Re Coco Turtle Graphics Does anyone have a screen capture of turtle graphics running on a CoCo that can use in the newsletter From Chris Osborn Subject Re Coco Turtle Graphics Screen capture or photo Feel free to use mine https twitter com fozztexx status 39833988239893 7088 Turtle Graphics on the CoCo 10 From Theodore Alex Evans Subject Re Coco Turtle Graphics Bill Pierce wrote gt
4. All Attendees General Admission Saturday amp both days 5 00 1st 5 00 2nd amp more Sunday Only 5 00 1st 5 2nd amp more Children 12 and under FREE For further information general or exhibitor contact Tony Podraza GCCCI Robert Swoger GCCCI 847 428 3576 VOICE 630 837 7957 VOICE tonypodraza gmail com rswoger aol com 13 Calendar of Events by John Mark Mobley and Salvador Garcia Thursday January 9 2014 7 00 PM to 9 45 PM CST Glenside Color Computer Club Inc Business Meeting Schaumburg IL USA Premium Skype access available via john mark mobley Thursday February 13 2014 7 00 PM to 9 45 PM CST Glenside Color Computer Club Inc Business Meeting Schaumburg IL USA Premium Skype access available via john mark mobley Saturday February 22 2014 Engineers Week at IIT Illinois Institute of Technology Wheaton IL USA Link http www dupageeweek lit edu Thursday March 13 2014 7 00 PM to 9 45 PM CST Glenside Color Computer Club Inc Business Meeting Schaumburg IL USA Premium Skype access available via john mark mobley Saturday amp Sunday April 5 6 2014 Vintage Computer Festival East VCF East Wall New Jersey USA Link http www midatlanticretro org Sunday April 6 to Monday April 14 2014 MSI Robot Block Party Museum of Science and Industry Chicago IL USA Link http www nationalroboticsweek org events php Thursday April 10 2014 7
5. Color Logo and D L Logo and probably Super Logo gt never ran this one are all based on Turtle Graphics Turtle Graphics are a feature of Logo ok the best known feature but wouldn t say it was based on turtle graphics D L Logo is actually a pretty good Logo interpreter and is capable of a whole lot beyond Turtle Graphics Odds and Ends Bob it has taken me two days to read the whole report And think that the magnifier is GREAT And Allen did a real outstanding job Very interesting all the way hope that he can do a lot more like that The club should help him out financially think don t have his email address or would tell him myself how much enjoyed his work Please if you can email this to him think that he is a great guy Just as ALL the guys in the club are great Thanks a lot Bob George Hi George Please excuse the friendliness of this letter hope it is all right for me to call you George After participating in the auction via video feed with Allen Huffman s help already feel like a member of your group of coco enthusiasts After speaking with Bob Swoger would like to formally join the Glenside color computer club After viewing the video feed Saturday and Sunday really feel was there I m making plans to be there next year at the CoCoFEST mean ld like to be at your annual picnic but will probably not make that How about a Skype feed for that too hope to meet you
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7. 00 PM to 9 45 PM CST Glenside Color Computer Club Inc Business Meeting Schaumburg IL USA Premium Skype access available via john mark mobley Saturday amp Sunday April 26 27 2014 The 23rd Annual Last Chicago CoCoFEST Lombard IL USA Premium Skype access available via john mark mobley Link http Awww glensideccc com Link http Awww glensideccc com cocofest index shtml Saturday May 3 2014 Maker Faire Carl Schurz High School 3601 N Milwaukee Ave Chicago IL 60641 USA Link http makerfairechicagonorthside com Link http Awww schurzhs org Tuesday July 22 through Sunday July 27 2014 KansasFest 2014 APPLE II FOREVER Rockhurst University in Kansas City Missouri USA Link http www kansasfest org Be sure to visit our Website to see up to date information on upcoming events lt Do You Remember These Bugs These Bugs were on every book arti a and on every piece of hardware produ 1y from the Boomer generation would h these Bugs and may have a memory of ii lacksburg Continuing Education Series were used in electronics and computer education Why Bugs In a book called Computer Literacy by John V g Lombardi the author describes that in the heart of every microcomputer resides an electronic device known as a microprocessor That chip of plastic loaded with circuits has an appearance like a rectangular bug This microproces
8. Brain recommended these chips to possibly be used with the CoCo 1 WlZnet 5500 includes TCP IP stack 2 WlZnet 5300 includes TCP IP stack 3 WlZnet 5100 includes TCP IP stack see three ways to get Internet to the CoCo Example 1 CoCoFEST Wi Fi gt Wi Fi USB wireless adapter gt USB gt Raspberry Pi or PC gt USB gt USB to RS 232 Serial gt DriveWire cable gt CoCo Example 2 CoCoFEST Wi Fi gt DD WRT Repeater Bridge gt Ethernet gt CoCo Ethernet Card gt CoCo Example 3 CoCoFEST Wi Fi gt CoCo Wi Fi Card gt CoCo CoCo users could play games with each other How about a version of Tom Mix s P 51 Mustang Attack Flight Simulator that works over the Internet rather than over a modem This program currently allows two players to dogfight each other from separate CoCos over a modem How about a version of Pong that lets you play another player over the Internet We could experiment with networked games now Perhaps we can load P 51 Mustang and bring up a P 51 Mustang server The P 51 Mustang server would connect your CoCo s serial port over the Internet to another P 51 Mustang server Is anybody up for the challenge Duck Duck Go By John Mark Mobley Duck Duck Go is an Internet search engine that does not keep track of what you search for on the Internet They do not sell your search history to advertisers insurance companies and such There are no ads targeted specifically to you
9. any what direction prompt should also mention the q can be used to start the game over There are also some completely random elements of the game that can knock you back down a few levels the object of the game now is to get to floor 20 of the hotel where the NO MINIMUM BID AUCTION is going on A geek squad can abduct you or you can accidentally wander into an elevator These events add a kind of snakes and ladders element to the game Fest Quest is on disk 44 of the LogiCall V7 0 Ensemble along with other games by Jim Gerrie z LS Vcc 1 41 Se _ MAN File Configuration Cartridge Help SY IIM CGERRDE BASED ON A GAME BY JIM EWHES Skip 01 FPS 60 HD6309 1 79Mhz MPL0 0 FD 502 Idle HD IDLE 1 The opening screen 7 Vec 1 41 Smr File Configuration Cartridge Help FORHARD LH OTHE OU ae FORD SIMER MASTER AHD COCO STUFF HOW WHAT GG LAL HS HEC Le teaAse Ero p ER E aN P Sa i File Configuration Cartridge Help Vec 1 41 YOU ARE AT THE 2Z2HD ANNUAL LAST COO PEST HHICH Has COLO STUPF BUT ALSO MAHY HAZARDS THE GOAL OF THE GAME LS TU MAKE YOUR HAT UF HE Sales TRROWGH THE HOTEL 10 THE slo Wa THE cere FE We HATER HILL TERE YOU CPU THE SNU MLHILMUM BID AUCTION lt FRESS s PU SEE FOUR STATUS LH BATILES WHITH GEERS YOU Wee TEGERE CEDUS cd 0 ed pwd BL SO os oa YOUR OFPPOWENT AND SOMETIMES KHOWNLEDGE TRADING
10. website John Mark has worked hard on it Robert Swoger Secretary Glenside Color Computer Club THE EDITOR S CLIPBOARD have an Apple iPod Touch and like to listen to podcasts while driving or riding in my car enjoy the Retro Computing Roundtable RCR podcast They announce upcoming vintage computing events such as The 23 Annual Last Chicago CoCoFEST Their website has links to recent relevant articles It is a good show recommend you check it out Here s a list of vintage computer podcasts All of these podcasts discuss vintage computing in general unless otherwise indicated below e 1 MHz Apple Il Podcast Apple II ANTIC The Atari 8 bit Podcast Atari Boring Beige Box Chicken Lips Radio Commodore The Classic Computing Show DigiBarn Radio Floppy Days Podcast Next Without For No Quarter gaming Open Apple Apple II Retro Computing Roundtable Retro Asylum Podcast gaming The Retro League gaming The Retrobits Podcast You Don t Know Flack All of these podcasts are free You can listen to podcasts on an iPod iPhone Android smartphone or PC have used the iPP Podcast application for listening to podcasts on my Android smartphone To listen to a podcast on your PC you can download the iTunes app iTunes runs in Mac OS Windows and Linux In order to get iTunes to run in Linux you will need to run the WINE application or use a utility like VirtualBox If you have any articles or article ideas
11. FLOPPIES LS Bi MERTER StU eee rk We SBT ONT ALWAYS HIT A KEY amp Skip 01 FPS 60 HD6309 1 79Mhz MPI 0 0 FD 502 Idle HD IDLE 2 Instructions Skip 01 FPS 60 HD6309 1 79Mhz MPL0 0 FD 502 Idle HD IDLE 4 Sock Master is one of many characters in the game r a Vcc 1 41 _ Sax File Configuration Cartridge Help FORHARD WHAT DIRECTION BE me m r Vec 1 41 SM File Configuration Cartridge Help FORHARD WHAT DIRECTION Skip 01 FPS 60 HD6309 1 79Mhz MPI 0 0 FD 502 Idle HD IDLE 4 What Direction L eft F orward or R ight i 7 Vcc 1 41 Skip 01 FPS 60 HD6309 1 79Mhz MPL0 0 FD 502 Idle HD IDLE 5 You made it to the 20 floor of the hotel Go right File Configuration Cartridge Help WHAT DIRECTION F Skip 01 FPS 60 HD6309 1 79Mhz MPI0 0 FD 502 Idle HD IDLE 6 The characters do the Happy Dance You made it File Configuration Cartridge Help Skip 01 FPS 60 HD6309 1 79Mhz MPLO 0 FD 502 Idle HD IDLE 7 This is your score My initial strategy for winning the game is RUN the game Press the lt BREAK gt key and type H 100000 L 4 S 100000 CONT H represents your Geek Cred Health L represents what floor level of the hotel you are on If L 1 then you are on the 20 floor of the hotel S represents how many floppies you have Jim Gerrie
12. anguage by John G Kemeny and Thomas E Kurtz who are the creators of the BASIC language One holds a doctorate in Computer Science and the other holds a doctorate in Mathematics but since I ve had to move much of my stuff around a little before Thanksgiving cant locate my copy of the book to verify any facts It has been several months since read the book so I m writing this article from memory If recall incorrectly please forgive Thank you It was their insight into an observation of a growing need in students at Dartmouth College that led to the eventual creation of the BASIC Programming Language Again will say Did you know that the Original form of the BASIC Language was a Fully Structured Programming Language implemented as a Fast Compiler When a student typed RUN on the console their program was immediately compiled not interpreted on the spot and the results displayed right there on the student s screen This was implemented on a GE Mainframe that until that time only had batch processing available to run computer programs for students or faculty for that matter When found out about that fact was shocked thought Well if BASIC was that good what happened to it According to John Kemeny and Thomas Kurtz BASICally Bill Gates happened to it In their book John Kemeny and Thomas Kurtz both blame Bill Gates for the corruption and ultimately the bad reputation that has befallen the high
13. ct creators and information keepers The CoCo impacted many lives and this book leaves no stone unturned in recounting this fascinating slice of the PC revolution that is still in play today From early telecommunications experiments to engineering and budgetary challenges it covers all the aspects that made the CoCo a truly personal useful computing experience in as small and inexpensive a package as possible BILL LOGUWIDIEE BOISY G PIT aE GRECO ely pA The 23rd Annual Last Chicago CoCoFEST GOGOn G0u NOs OOoG CIAIRIR VION Here are the 5 W s WHO 1 Glenside Color Computer Club Inc PRESENTS WHAT 2 The 23rd Annual Last Chicago CoCoFEST WHEN 3 April 26 amp 27 2014 Sat 10 am 5 pm 8 pm 11 pm Sun 10 am 3 pm WHERE 4 Fairfield Inn amp Suites Lombard 645 West North Avenue Lombard IL 60148 Near the intersection of IL 355 and North Avenue Same location as 2013 Overnight room rate 79 00 plus 11 tax 87 69 Total Call 1 630 629 1500 for reservations You must ask for the Glenside CoCoFEST rate gt gt gt YOU MUST REGISTER UNDER CoCoFEST lt lt lt gt gt gt TO GET THIS RATE lt lt lt WHY 5 A To provide vendor support to the CoCo Community B To provide Community support for our CoCo Vendors C To provide educational support to new users D TO HAVE AN OUTRAGEOUSLY GOOD TIME And now the H word HOW MUCH
14. e form the original version of the BASIC Compiler took as designed and implemented by John Kemeny Thomas Kurtz and under their direction by many computer programming graduate students is a very interesting story to behold bet the computer room there at Dartmouth College was a flurry of activity as each graduate student that participated in the development and implementation of the BASIC Language compiler discovered and created many new ways to implement much needed commands by the student population at large After reading the book found a copy of the assembler source code as well as a BASIC User s Manual of one of those very first versions of the original BASIC Compiler that ran on that GE computer and must say it reminds me a lot of 6809 Assembler Source Code One of those implemented commands added later on during the development of their BASIC compiler is the MAT command Behind that simple sounding three letter keyword was a massive programming effort culminating in one of the most powerful features of the entire language With one single command one could affect changes to entire arrays of data or make calculations on a mountain of data all at once to sucha scale that it boggled the mind to think about it much less to fully understand how it did it My mind went round and round as studied examples of its use as had only heard of it but never had an opportunity to use it since the BASIC interpreters had ava
15. ght and it was no exception in the reading of this book hope you all enjoy learning about the Origin of the BASIC Programming Language like did Qaplah Starfleet Out JohnG Kemeny Thomas i Kurtz te Henra Lannion dal maii ofthe arnee CoCo The Colorful History of Tandy s Underdog Computer By John Mark Mobley Boisy Pitre and Bill Loguidice have written a new book on the CoCo The book is scheduled to be released on December 16 2013 The following text is taken from the Amazon Book Description This is the first book to document the complete history of the Tandy Color Computer CoCo a popular 8 bit PC series from the 1980s that competed against the era s biggest names including the Apple Il IBM PC and Commodore 64 The book takes you inside the interesting stories and people behind this unique underdog computer 12 Both noted computer science and technology advocates authors Pitre and Loguidice reveal the story of a pivotal period in the home computing revolution from the perspective of Tandy s CoCo As these computers were sold in Radio Shack stores throughout the United States and other countries they provide a critical point of reference for key events in the unprecedented evolutionary period for the PC industry in the 1980s The book also features first hand accounts from the people who created and promoted the CoCo from the original Tandy executives and engineers to today s active produ
16. ilable did not have it included I m sure many computer programmers can appreciate the effect such a command would have had in their programs For one programs would have been considerably smaller had that command existed in the other BASICs available to them and much more efficient Yes John Thomas and all those graduate students there had their hands full all right If recall correctly the BASIC Language was born on May 6 1964 at about 4 10 am when the first BASIC program was run which has sadly been lost to time It would have been interesting to see what form that very first BASIC program took albeit probably a simple program indeed During the first five years of the life of the BASIC Language much change took place in the look and feel of the language itself The very first version of the compiler only contained just a few commands all of which are well known in Disk Extended Color BASIC Interestingly enough the INPUT command was not one of them In the beginning there was no way to input any type of data whatsoever The book mentions what those first few commands were and you all would recognize them They are well known Yes I m not mentioning all the details on purpose want you to enjoy reading the book like did lf remember correctly read it in just a few nights of nice golden silence at home in my favorite lounge chair In other words everybody else was sleeping get most of my work done at ni
17. ly structured wonderful programming language that was their creation John and Thomas wanted to create an easily learned computer programming language for non programmers those students in other courses of study that needed a computer to accomplish and realize calculations needed to support their studies but who did not want to have to learn computer science just to get their work done on the mainframe computer in the computer department They were not there to become computer programmers but rather to become experts in other fields of study have studied many examples of their language generously splattered throughout the book and must say if their BASIC Compiler had been implemented on our Color Computer then we would have had a truly powerful highly structured easy to read programming language at our disposal 11 John and Thomas give many comparisons between several versions of the BASIC language which existed back then in widespread use on several 8 bit machines of the day citing many examples as compared to the commands and structure available in their BASIC Compiler Did you know that the file access commands like LOAD and SAVE etc weren t really part of the BASIC Language itself Those and several other commands were really part of the underlying operating system which ran on the GE Mainframe computer there at Dartmouth College in the Computer Science Department The story behind the initial development and ultimat
18. next year Take care and happy CoCoing Kip Koon Dear Bob My brother David Macias has been a CoCo enthusiast since his first CoCo computer purchased in the 1970 s He enjoyed the CoCoFEST s and even dragged me there one time After that understood his affection for the CoCo Sadly David died on 2 13 09 would like to have someone benefit from his CoCo stuff someday If there is a local contact who can help me gather that would appreciate it Sincerely Elena Macias Dave s CoCo collection was present at the 2013 CoCoFEST No Minimum Bid Auction and was distributed to many of those present Ed How Long Do Disk Drives Last By Brian Beach A study was done to find the reliability of hard drives When run 24 hours a day 22 of consumer grade hard drives failed in the first 4 years If you want to know more try out the link below for the full article Link http blog backblaze com 2013 1 1 12 how long do disk drives last Origin of the BASIC Programming Language By Kip Koon Computer Doc was talking to a friend one day about the Interpreted BASIC Language we are all familiar with in our beloved Color Computer relating how the BASIC Language was Originally a compiled language instead of the interpreted language we are all familiar with He was surprised to hear that fact if recall correctly told him about a book was reading called Back to BASIC The History Corruption and Future of the L
19. phics application for the CoCo Link https en wikipedia org wiki Turtle_ graphics From Bill Pierce Subject Re Coco Turtle Graphics Color Logo and D L Logo and probably Super Logo never ran this one are all based on Turtle Graphics Color Logo even has a turtle shaped cursor All were available from Radio Shack used to run Color Logo quite a bit in the cassette days did run DL Logo a bit but not enough to learn it well The DL Logo disk I had was in a box of disks inherited from a CoCoNut migrating to PC and never had the manual to learn the language From Chris Osborn Subject Re Coco Turtle Graphics That s interesting timing It s RetroBattlestations http redd it 1ps46b I ve been messing around with the Color Computer LOGO it s so primitive compared to other LOGOs LOGO Week on From Bill Pierce Subject Re Coco Turtle Graphics Chris DL Logo is much better but it runs under OS9 From Bill G Subject Re Coco Turtle Graphics DL Logo And would imagine the Logo Cartridge as well Maybe can find them when I get home From David McNally Subject Re Coco Turtle Graphics used to have both Color Logo and Super Logo The only real difference with Super Logo that knew of was the fact it could do decimal math so you could create circles Color Logo was integer based so circles looked like a figure with a bunch of sides From Mathieu Bouchard Subject Re Coco Tu
20. please submit them to me You can contact me through the club website using the contact us section or the following link http www glensideccc com contact index shtml John Mark Mobley Editor Glenside Color Computer Club Annual Glenside Picnic 2013 by John Mark Mobley The Annual Glenside Picnic was held at the home of George Scheeweiss in Forrest IL on Sept 21 2013 Uh gN a 5 m ne De Ve J ov Justin reprogrammed the firmware in the router so we could use it to extend the range of the Wi Fi Kip Koon and Bill Gordon attended using Skype It s impossible to enjoy Mirai corn through the computer though cn f d F farg AA Cc lt tr cc a uir g Bs a og Y l s The Wi Fi signal is strong here but the picnic table is over there The CoCo is a good excuse to get together for a picnic AN Nice people Nice Time 1 ty a remote controlled gli anme P George has a collection of trains der RG S E Te ess TN R i W UAI KA u owe ewe Batts i Y N s s gt i George has a collection of Batmobiles ste George has an Edison cylinder phonograph Vintage Computer Festival Midwest VCFMW 8 0 and Emergency Chicagoland Commodore Convention ECCC Report b y John Mark Mobley attended the VCFMW and ECCC spent a good amount of my time t
21. rarian Brian Goers 705 005 1555 Software rHrdwr Manager Editor John Mark Mobley 847 409 8604 Newsletter Froduction a al kai a fio i i i VA ia iS z Ti Tory Podraza Chris Hawks Robert Saoger George Schneeaens Bran Goers Jolm Mark Mobley CoCo 1235 A Glenside Publication Since 1985 Volume 33 Number 3 1 Autumn 2013 CoCo 123 INFORMATION CoCo 123 is the newsletter of the Glenside Color Computer Club Your annual contribution of 15 00 helps to keep our club going Send your check to Glenside Treasurer George L Schneeweiss 13450 N 2700 E Road Forrest IL 61741 9629 Our treasury provides newsletters and good times with fellow CoCo users at our Annual Last Chicago CoCoFEST and annual Glenside picnic CoCo 123 CONTRIBUTIONS If you have any suggestions for the newsletter or would like to submit an article please contact the CoCo 123 Newsletter editor John Mark Mobley 4104 Wren Lane Rolling Meadows IL 60008 johnmarkmelanie gmail com CONTRIBUTORS TO THIS ISSUE Brian Beach Mathieu Bouchard Alex Evans Kip Koon Elena Macias David McNally John Mark Mobley Chris Osborn Bill Pierce George Schneeweiss Robert Swoger G C C C MEETINGS The Glenside Color Computer Club meets the second Thursday of each month at the Schaumburg Township District Library at 7 00 pm If you need a map see our Glenside Homepage at http glensideccc com A social get together always follows the meeting at a nea
22. rby restaurant lovingly called The Meeting After TREASURY NOTE We have 7755 90 in checking We have 107 paid members in 2013 down from 136 in 2011 and a total of 398 members to whom we send newsletters George Schneeweiss Trea urer Glenside Color Computer Club THE SECRETARY S NOTEBOOK For a FREE copy of the LogiCall Ensemble email me at rswoger aol com or phone me at 630 837 7957 At present there are 58 copies of LogiCall that have been distributed Try it you ll like it You will all note that we are now using the website given us by Steve Bjork Most like it and all the information it provides A few felt more comfortable with the OLD site SO provided both ways Now when you go to GlensideCCC com you will first see the old Classic site for about a second we now refer to this as the SPLASH page and then you will see the new site provided by Steve At this point you can navigate back to the Classic site In the second paragraph of Steve s front page it reads To view the Glenside Color Computer Club s classic SPLASH page please use this link By clicking on the blue word link you will return to the old Classic web page The new site offers meeting information COCoFEST information on events and exhibitors a calendar resources list photos documents such as exhibitor contracts Constitution amp Bylaws and newsletters and contact ability to reach Glenside officers Please check out our new
23. rtle Graphics used to have both Color Logo and Super Logo The only real difference with Super Logo that knew of was the fact it could do decimal math so you could create circles Color Logo was integer based so circles looked like a figure with a bunch of sides T R360 Color LOGO Ul rT lor OG Jlo In Bresenham s circle algorithm you don t need decimal math nor a square root function nor even multiplications amp divisions COMPUTER TRS 80 COLOR COMPUTER ENVIRONMENT COLOR LOGO BY MATHIEU L BOUCHARD NOV 2013 TO CIRCLE HT SETH 90 MAKE X 128 REPEAT 128 MAKE Y Y 1 MAKE K K Y MAKE U X WHILE K gt x MAKE K K X MAKE X X 1 SETX X SETY 192 Y FD U X END This computes squares and square roots incrementally The trick is that successive results of 1 2 3 4 5 make a square like sequence 1 3 6 10 15 also follows the pattern x x x 2 This allows to find differences between consecutive points in the circle equation From John Mark Mobley Subject Re Coco Turtle Graphics This is my Python Turtle Graphics Program usr bin python This is an example of Python Turtle Graphics This program makes an octagon stop sign Works under Cygwin if you run XWinServer first Works on a Mac Works under Linux if run inside X Window System import turtle import time turtle pendown for a in xrange 8 turtle left 45 turtle forward 50
24. rying to figure out what the Commodore group was doing with their Ethernet cards The answer is 1 Email no attachments please Internet Relay Chat IRC Telnet Networked video games Develop on a PC amp then load files to the target Load and save file to a cloud based file server Web server a LP cl Ee noon They have had Ethernet cards for 10 years They have developed two networked video games in that time The first game is for two players Each player aims a cannon and takes a shot over a mountain and tries to hit their opponent The second game is for two to eight players This game allows up to eight cars to race against each other They are working on a third game This game would likely allow two to eight players The game is run from a cloud based server and the target is a dumb terminal The target is told to display a sprite in a given position Someone on an Android phone could play against someone on a Commodore One person from the Commodore group recommended bypassing Ethernet and going directly to Wi Fi to connect the Commodore to the Internet He used Roving Networks RN XV Module Wi Fi and Adafruit XBee adapter kit 5V to 3 3V converter Other Commodore users used a Cirrus Logic CS8990A chip to connect to the Internet However the chip does not include a TCP IP stack and therefore required a lot of extra code to make it work The CoCo users should also come up with ways to connect CoCos over the Internet Jim
25. s GlensideCamgxi ot CoCo 123 Vo cen on r EHS 0i c Volume XVI Number side Color Comput Search results using Duck Duck Go Link https duckduckgo com Link https en wikipedia org wiki Duck_Duck_Go Link https en wikipedia org wiki Filter_bubble Fest Quest Review By John Mark Mobley FESQUEST BAS is an adventure game by Jim Gerrie The game is based on a 1980 s game called Pit with Monsters for the Sinclair ZX81 or Timex Sinclair 1000 by Jim Ennes The following 3 paragraphs on strategy are from http jimgerrie blogspot ca 2013 05 fest quest pit with monster by jim html There are several aspects to game play beyond the trivia component These are a legacy of PM Pit with Monsters The object is to explore and gather the right kind of items that will increase your geek cred Other kinds of items add to your floppy supply One must learn to recognize the differences between these two kinds of items The opponents have different levels of geek cred 1 100 If you run into an opponent who has more geek cred than you they will defeat you If you have more geek cred than them then you will defeat them but you use up geek cred to do so i e the amount of geek cred of your opponent is subtracted from your geek cred So you must sometimes avoid such combat by using floppy trading at least as long as your disks hold out to overcome more powerful opponents However added the trivia ques
26. s response when shared this strategy with him Hey that s cheating You may also want to edit line 876 to make the game easier Before edit 876 IF B Z X gt 0 AND B Z X lt 25 THEN H H 30 After edit 876 IF B Z X gt 0 AND B Z X lt 25 THEN H H 60 SOUND 20 2 SOUND 40 2 SOUND 60 2 FOR AA 1 TO 600 NEXT AA You can find the software on Jim s software page http www3 ns sympatico ca jimgerrie jsoft html Look for JGGAMES5 DSK There are links to download these files and Jim s other DSK files at the bottom of the page Adding LogiCall Features To Fest Quest By Bob Swoger LogiCall provides an easy way to launch programs on disk After running the program the user will want to exit the program and return to LogiCall Some programs reset the computer when they exit This would boot the CoCo and LogiCall would start up again automatically However many programs simply halt Typing RUN lt ENTER gt will run the program again In a program or game such as FESQUEST above the program normally halts FESQUEST before halting prompts the user ANOTHER GAME If you respond with N then the program goes to line 2000 where the program puts on the screen GOODBYE SEE YOU NEXT YEAR The next instruction is END which HALTs the computer and there it sits doing nothing You then have to RESET the computer to get started again To get LogiCall running again insert GOTO 9998 before END so that the line now reads
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28. tion component as a randomly occurring save feature you only get asked a question half the time when geek combat occurs If you meet up with someone with higher geek cred and you answer the question correctly then you beat them no matter how much cred they have but just barely so your cred goes to 0 If you meet someone with higher cred but flub the question then you lose But if you meet someone with lower cred and get asked a trivia question but flub the question then your geek cred goes to 0 If you battle someone with lower cred and get the question you beat them in the usual way your cred is reduced by the of their cred So in brief navigating to the top floor takes a bunch of strategies You need to collect floppy trading stuff or equivalents such as the coco CD or drive wire cables You also need to collect other items which increase geek cred manuals amp cool hardware You need to avoid combat with people with higher cred unless you feel you have enough floppies for floppy trading to defeat them or you are confident enough that your trivia knowledge can save you in geek combat no matter what their cred You also have to try to keep building up cred and floppy supplies so sometimes careful exploration of rooms and strategic retreats can be more prudent than simply trying to move forward and upward via passages stairs and combat Use the s option to see the status of your cred and floppy supplies at
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