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1. Click the Export button Namethefilein the standard way and click the Export button in the standard Save As dialog box to save the module M odules that you create in this way will always contain one device and all of the patch types contained in it You or a friend can re install these modules into Galaxy in the same manner that you installed the modules that came with Galaxy Opcode Publication 1950906 1ll1 PatchTalk Guide Send Opcode Your Modules PatchTalk Help Opcode will periodically release additional Galaxy modules W e hope that eventually MIDI manufacturers will write them before they release new devices but in the meantime if you want to share your work with other Galaxy users send us your modules W e ll be collect ing them for possible inclusion with future versions of Galaxy A summary of PatchTalk is available as on line help To open a help window choose PatchTalk from the System 7 Help menu Figure 6 System 7 help menu icon appears on upper right of Macintosh screen PatchTalk Commands Commands are the instructions you write in PatchTalk scripts They instruct Galaxy to perform very specific functions W hen a script is run each command in the script is executed in sequence Remember that while Galaxy tries to do as much for you as possible when it s running ascript it can only do exactly what is stated The following list of commands describes both how to use them ina
2. Checksum0 ListOfValues into after Destination These commands all perform the same function as the Put command However each of them does something to the data before it is placed into or after the Destination Nibblize expands the data to twice its size by placing the upper and lower 4 bits a nibble of each byte into separate bytes The upper nibble precedes the lower nibble in memory Many MIDI devices use this simple encoding of patch data for transmission W e encourage you to store patches in denibblized format for efficient use of disk Space and memory NOTE One good clue as to whether the data is nibblized is whether the size of the data that the device sends you is twice as large than what is specified in its MIDI specification DeNibblize contracts the data to half its size by combining each pair of bytes into asingle byte It is the reverse of Nibblize Checksum sums every byte and appends the low byte of the total to the end of the data Some MIDI devices require this value to be placed near the end of the data portion of all system exclusive messages See the MIDI device s manual for details Checksum0 is like Checksum only the reverse of the low byte of the total is appended to the data Some MIDI devices such as some by Roland use this form of checksum View Variables This pauses ascript and opens a dialog box displaying the contents of all currently defined variables It is useful for debugging your script
3. repeatedly for each patch in the bank although this will be somewhat slower Some M IDI devices do not store the name of a patch in away the Galaxy can read which is a standard code called A SCII In these cases you write these scripts to describe how to convert to and from the particular code the MIDI device uses Because of the special nature of this script saving this script can take along time Many MIDI devices do not number their patches in one of the common numbering schemes that Galaxy knows 1 n 0 n 1 or 11 88 For example some use a scheme that runs A1 A2 A8 B1 etc In these cases you can write this script to instruct Galaxy how to number the patches the way your MIDI device does Because of the special nature of this script saving this script can take along time Saving and Exporting PatchTalk Modules The patch and device types you create with Galaxy are stored in afile called Galaxy Librarian M odules Scripts are treated as parts of apatch type For safe backup of your work and to be able to share it with others you ll probably want to make copies of your custom patches and devices To save a copy of a custom device and the patch types it contains Open the Galaxy Configuration dialog by choosing Setups gt Galaxy Configuration Click the Devices button if it s not already the current choice Select the device you want to export Only custom devices marked by asterisks are exportable
4. script and what they do when run by Galaxy The format of the com mand is given first then a description of what the command does followed by some examples Keep these points in mind when looking at the format lines e Words in boldface such as Receive are ty ped just as they appear e Words in italics are replaced by one or more words that are appro priate for example ListOfValues may be replaced by 3 4 e Groups of words in braces such as into after are choices sepa rated by the vertical bar You can choose one of the options e Any text after two dashes is a comment Galaxy will ignore whatever is there through the end of the line A long dash will also work typed as Option Shift dash e Some parts of a command are optional This is noted in a comment Note that if you include optional parts you must write them in the order they appear in the format line e Upper and lower case letters make no difference put Put and PUT are all the same Opcode Publication 1950906 12 PatchTalk Guide Send SendBulk Receive e While some formats are shown on several lines for clarity PatchT alk commands are written one line per command See PatchT alk Notes for away to get around this limitation Send ListOfValues This transmits the data in the ListOfValues to the MIDI device Any data may be sent system exclusive commands note commands patch data It s up to you to ensure tha
5. 1950906 28 PatchTalk Guide You are sending to the device too soon after it has sent data The device has a bug in its MIDI implementation The patch name is set incorrectly or becomes garbage when receiving Deciphering Patch Data Some devices require a time delay after it has sent or received data before another message can be sent to it Check the device s User s M anual to see if this applies Use the command Delay to introduce delays between system exclusive messages Be careful about assuming this M ake sure your current setup works with other devices by plugging the same MIDI cables into other devices Then check the MIDI specification and all data you sent and received If you still believe it is a bug in your device call the manu facturer Be aware that some devices may not be changed just because you have reported a bug Try to work around the bug if at all possible The received data is incorrect e View the data immediately before placing it in Patch or Bank and determine its validity The patch size name offset or name length is specified incorrectly e Check the Define Custom Patch Type dialog M ake sure that if the device does not support a name for this patch type that you add Name Length to the size of the raw patch as stored in the device The data is somehow encoded e You may find this information in the device s User s manual and then again you may not If the information isn t
6. Help Message Get Patch Script Send Patch Script Get Bank Script Send Bank Script tp Bignigu Marae beripti Te Geuine Mame Berigt Puich Label lt rigt Execute Current Script 5 Figure 7 Custom Menu NOTE To access the Custom menu you need to have Programming M ode checked in the Define Device dialog box and havea bank or a bundle window active Opcode Publication 1950906 25 PatchTalk Guide Define Custom Patch Type Edit Help Message Scripts Get Patch Send Patch Get Bank Send Bank To Display Name To Device Name Patch Label About Patch Type Open Other Type s Script Opens the Define Custom Patch Type dialog for the patch type con tained in the active bank or library window Opens a dialog where you can enter a short message which the user will see if she chooses Help when a bank of this type of patches is active Opens a text editing window for the specified script Choose File gt Save to save the edited script If you have unsaved changes when you close a script editing window you ll be asked if you want to save them The Custom menu remains available while the script window is active Here s where you the author of the custom librarian module get to tell us about yourself and your endeavor Put whatever you like here Opens a dialog box where you can select a script from a different patch type even one that isn t currently installed into Galaxy to read Select a pa
7. a custom module written for it Look at the scripts and the infor mation entered in dialog boxes to get ideas for creating your own custom modules Learning from examples is probably the clearest way to find out how to program your own modules N OTE M any of the modules included with Galaxy werenot created in the manner described in this section many modules were written in C Asa result the Define Custom Patch Type and Define Custom Device dialog boxes for these patch types won t be accessible and there areno PatchT alk scripts to read Opcode Publication 1950906 2 PatchTalk Guide Defining Patch Types To create a custom module for Galaxy you create a custom device and one or more custom patch types This is done by filling out dialog boxes accessed from the Galaxy Configuration dialog box Patch types are created first followed by the custom device The following discus sion details these two steps Each MIDI device can have one or more patch types For example a synthesizer might have voices and set ups adrum machine might have tone parameters patterns and songs Almost every device has a system setup area that can be implemented as a single patch type For each type of information your MIDI device has you ll need to create a new custom patch type To create a new custom patch type Choose Setups gt Galaxy Configuration Check Programming M odein the lower left of the dialog box Galaxy Configuration
8. and your MIDI device Use it to Variables view all the currently defined variables and their values within a run ning script Refer to the description of the View Variables command earlier in this section for a description of its syntax You can use View Variables to e Look at the sys ex header you re sending to the device By viewing the data in the sys ex header right before you send it you can verify that you built it correctly Sometimes you may find that you left out a byte or inserted a byte when you meant to insert along word 4 bytes e Look at the data the device is sending back If you verify that the data you are receiving is correct you can know that the problem is not a bug in the device or a result of an incorrect sys ex header You can then concentrate on determining why it s not making it into the bank properly Opcode Publication 1950906 27 PatchTalk Guide Common Problems The device does not respond to my MIDI messages You are not sending a proper system exclusive message e Examine the contents of bank or patch as they are changed By viewing variables immediately before and after a command that changes the contents of bank patch or any other important vari able you can determine whether the change is taking effect properly If not many times you may find that the wrong part of the vari able is being changed or that the patch size or name offset defined for this patch type is incorrec
9. can add the same patch type two or more times once for each bank as long as you change each name For examplea synthesizer may have an internal bank and a card bank of voices First add the patch type for voices to the device rename it to internal voices then add the patch type again and rename the second one to card voices After you have created a device and its patch types you ll need to create a set of scripts for each patch type e Create anew bank for the new patch type by choosing File gt New Bank The Custom menu appears next to the Load Send menu It con tains a command for each script e Choose an item from the Custom menu to edit the script for it A text editing window containing that script opens so you can enter and edit the script 2S bet Patch Script for Programs 2717 953 tom ichtenberg the X3 is put into edit mode to send a patch to us put 36 into Model IO put 103 into ProgreamEdi thode send f0 42 S devicelD ModellO 4e ProgramEditMode 00 f7 put 110 into ProgramData put ProgramData into Request send f0 42 S devicelD Model lO Request f7 receivePackets 5 1 500 into data Korg tos data into data Figure 5 Script Editing Window You write these scripts to describe how to transfer a single patch to or from the MIDI device They usually instruct Galaxy to send system exclusive data to the MIDI device and in the case of Get Patch to receive
10. several small texts called scripts to describe the ways your MIDI device works for each patch type in the device Scripts written in PatchTalk describe e Loading and sending a patch from a MIDI device Get Patch and Send Patch scripts e Loading and sending an entire bank of patches from a M IDI device Get Bank and Send Bank scripts e Translating the patch name in a patch to and from ASCII To Display Name and To Device Name scripts e Thenumbering of the MIDI device s patches Patch Number script W hen Galaxy performs an operation with your MIDI device it follows the instructions in one or more scripts that you have written to find out how to interact with the MIDI device This is called running a Script The descriptions that follow provide information about Galaxy and PatchT alk that are necessary in order to write scripts and create custom modules However you also need information about your par ticular MIDI device and how it talks to computers over MIDI often referred to as its system exclusive implementation This informa tion may bein the manuals that came with your device or you may have to request it from the company In either case be prepared to spend some time reading the documentation and experimenting with your MIDI device to understand how it really works Skim the examples of custom modules in this section and on the Galaxy disks You should find a device similar to yours that already has
11. there try altering the patch in the device and then sending back what it sent you If this works the old patch is received correctly see Deciphering Patch Data which follows One good clue as to whether the data is nibblized is whether the size of the data that the device sends you is bigger than what is specified in its MIDI specification You may not be able to tell by looking at the device s User M anual whether the patch data is being encoded as it s sent or not If you re having trouble displaying the patch s name or if the size of the data the device sends is larger or smaller than the size specified in the M IDI specification all or part of the data may be encoded A common way of encoding MIDI datain sys ex messages is nibbliz ing This is the process of converting one byte into two bytes The first byte contains the upper four bits of the original byte and the second byte contains the lower four bits There are two consequences of this that you can look for when trying to determine if data is nibblized e The data is twiceas large as it would be if it were not nibblized e No bytes have their high bit set have values gt 80 Opcode Publication 1950906 29 PatchTalk Guide Error Messages Constraint Violations Semantic Errors Also beware of strange things like only part of the patch being nib blized This is the case for M KS 70 Patches and the User M anual says nothing about the data being nibblize
12. 06 18 PatchTalk Guide Variables for All Scripts DevicelD PatchSize BankSize PatchesInBank BankTitle Get Bank and Send Bank Scripts Bank Patch All values are zero based This means that for example the sixteen channels of MIDI are numbered 0 through 15 in PatchT alk scripts Another example is that the one hundred and twenty eight patches are numbered 0 to 127 Please note that this is true in a script no matter what options have been checked in the Define Patch Type dialog Different variables are available in different scripts Be sure to use only the variables available in a given script or you will get an error message Following the description of each variable is its data number or string and if it can not be changed fixed The device ID of the MIDI device being talked to which is displayed in the bank and bundle windows number fixed The size in bytes of a single patch This does not include any addi tional information that Galaxy needs for each patch if total patch size differs from patch size in the Custom Patch Type dialog box That information is maintained separately and you don t ever see it number fixed The size in bytes of a bank of patches number fixed The number of patches in a bank of the patch type number fixed The name of the bank as it appears in a bundle window If you have the same patch type added to a device several times with different names for example you m
13. 4 25 26 27 28 e Custom The patches are numbered in some other scheme For example the patches might be named IA 6 or P22 This option tells Galaxy to use a script you write to generate the numbering If you want to get going quickly you can choose the most appropri ate option from one of the three preset options and come back to the custom option later The first numerical defines whether the device ID is 0 or 1 based The second numerical defines the highest device ID number possible for that device If your device doesn t appear to havea setting for a device ID then it s probably the same as the MIDI channel within the range Lto 16 This option tells Galaxy if the MIDI device needs to communicate back to Galaxy even when Galaxy is only sending patch information to the device If you need to use any of the Receive commands in your Send scripts see PatchT alk Commands later in this section then set this to yes N OTE Galaxy will not work properly with MIDI patchers and your custom patch type if this option is not set correctly Enter the number of bytes in a single patch This will generally be the number of data bytes that the MIDI device sends for each patch Some MIDI devices however transmit two bytes for each byte in a patch this is called nibblized data and therefore the size of the patch is only half of what is sent Furthermore afew MIDI devices require you to get several pieces of information for each i
14. OPCODE PUBLICATION PatchTalk Guide 1950906 Overview The Galaxy package contains modules that enable it to work with a wide variety of synthesizers and MIDI devices by describing how Galaxy needs to interact with a given synthesizer Galaxy also allows you to create modules for other synthesizers or MIDI devices that either didn t exist at the time this version of Galaxy was created or that we didn t know about PatchTalk Basics Before you attempt to create your own custom modules you should be familiar with e Hexadecimal numbers e TheMIDI specification particularly the format of system exclu siv e messages e How to read the section of M IDI device manufacturers manuals dealing with system exclusive messages e The basic concepts and principles involved in programming If you ve never done any programming you might want to try learn ing HyperTalk the language built into Apple s HyperCard before trying to learn PatchTalk the languages are similar and there are many books and HyperCard stacks that you can learn from To create your own custom or user defined module e Define the patch types that the device supports e Create anew device that uses these patch types e Write the scripts for each patch type Opcode Publication 1950906 l PatchTalk Guide PatchT alk is the language for describing how Galaxy should work with agiven MIDI device To create a Galaxy module for anew MIDI device you write
15. Return are ignored Note that typing Option Return will enter this character backslash The escape character It removes special meaning from some characters and adds meaning to others The following charac ters are given special meaning when following the escape character Any Characters not listed here ar inserted literally are given no special meaning when following the backslash Inserts a Return character into the text but also inserts a new roorin Return Same as r or n line in the script t Tab Inserts a Tab character into the string the Tab key may also be pressed double quote Terminates the string Opcode Publication 1950906 23 PatchTalk Guide Lists of Values Some commands notably Put allow you to work with a list of values at once These lists can be made by simply typing one or more numeric expressions and strings separated by spaces Some examples are 42 list of only one number 20 2 16 gt gt 1 another list of a single number 36 Hello list of the bytes 48 65 S6C S6C S6F SCO 34 a list of two bytes 14 4 4 5 the list of two bytes 10 and 20 FO Moo 4 5 a list of the several bytes SFO S4D S6F S6F 20 x Y a list of whatever is in X followed by whatever is in Y Conditions A condition is used in the conditional commands If and Repeat to decide which commands to run Conditions are just a form of expres sion usi
16. Show installed Devices 0 Patch types P H5 Combis 5 Global Drums HS Multi Effects HS Programs Install Device 1 Hamare Hephe f New Device type W Edi Barice lupe WE Enpi Deriep EH Custom User created E Programming Mode 3M Figure 1 1 Check Programming Mode select Patch Types Click the Patch Typesradio button in the upper right of the dialog box Click the New Custom button to open the Define Custom Patch Type dialog box Opcode Publication 1950906 3 PatchTalk Guide To make changes to an existing patch type Click the Patch Types button in the Galaxy Configuration dialog box Select the patch type and click the Edit button to open the Define Custom Patch Type dialog box Alternately you could simply double click the patch type Define Custom Patch Type Hame New Patch Type Patches in bank Size of patch Rows columns in bank Name conversion Fateh numbering Name offset in patch Mame length Device ID range Display name length Handshake on send Total patch size Has edit buffer Figure 2 Define Custom Patch Type Dialog Box Fill in the fields of the Define Custom Patch Type dialog box as follows Name Enter the name of the patch type This must be unique among all patch types in your system Therefore put the device model number in the name for example DX7 Voices or MultiVerb Patches Patches
17. Temporarily add it at various points if you want to check what your script is doing Strategic points to view variables are just beforea Send command and just after a Receive command View Variables stop and look at the variables Opcode Publication 1950906 16 PatchTalk Guide PatchTalk Control Structures Control Structures are PatchT alk commands that direct Galaxy how to interpret other PatchTalk statements They allow you to choose among two or more groups of statements and or repeatedly execute a group of statements Since they contain other commands these state ments may take up several lines in a script If Condition Then Commands Else optional Commands EndIf If the test indicated by Condition is true then the first set of Com mands is run by Galaxy Otherwise the second set of Commands is run Note that the second set of commands is optional and if not provided no commands will be run if the condition is false Note that the word then is optional If PatchNumber lt 64 check if the number is less than 64 Put A into BankLetter if so then we re in bank A Else lse the number is greater than or equal to 64 Put B into BankLetter and then we re in bank B EndIf finish the If If x 16 put 0 into x EndIf one line version of if x is 16 then set it to zero Opcode Publication 1950906 uA PatchTalk Guide Repeat Repeat Commands Until Condition The group of Commands
18. To make changes to an existing device type Click the Devices button in the Galaxy Configuration dialog box Opcode Publication 1950906 PatchTalk Guide Select the device type and click the Edit button to open the Define Custom Device dialog box Alternately you could simply double click the device type Define Custom Device Banks in device Combis Programs Global Drumkits HR Multi Effects Setup Selected bank s title Figure 3 Define Custom Device Dialog Box Fill in the Manufacturer and M odel fields with the appropriate names Click Add to add banks You will see a dialog box of patch types to choose from Select the Bank to add 45 Combis 5 Global Drums 5 Multi Effects H3 Programs Figure 4 Banks to Add Dialog Box Opcode Publication 1950906 8 PatchTalk Guide PatchTalk Scripts Get Patch and Send Patch New banks are added after the selected bank or at the beginning when no existing bank is selected You can click on any entry in the bank list and change its name by typing in the lower text box labeled Selected bank stitle This will change only the way the label appears in bundles where it is convenient not to have the model number repeated again since the model number is usually part of the patch typename as described in the Define Custom Patch Type section Furthermore some M IDI devices have several banks of the same patch type In this case you
19. Type dialog is set to Table Set to a value ranging from 0 127 The script should convert this value to display or device format and store it back into NameChar number Set this variable to the label to be displayed for the patch number in PatchNum string The number to be converted to a custom patch label number fixed Your own variables may have names that are up to thirty one charac ters in length They must begin with a letter To create a variable simply use the Put command to store some value in it Such as Put 67 into MyHeightInInches Put Frederick into MouseName Commands are written one to a line If you d like to write one com mand across several lines for clarity then you can hold down the Option key when you press return This will insert a character that tells Galaxy that the command continues on the next line You can also put more than one command on a single line by separating them with a semicolon Here are some examples Receive 1024 into midiBytes1a timeout after 2 seconds this command takes two lines Put 5 into x Put x x into y two commands on a line If x 0 then Put 1 into x a one line If command EndIf If x gt O Put x into Absolutex Else Put 0 x into AbsolutexX a two line If command EndIf Opcode Publication 1950906 21 PatchTalk Guide Numbers Anywhereanumeric value is needed you can enter any of the follow ing a decimal number a hexadecimal number a va
20. a script that converts from one letter in the patch s name into ASCII and vice versa Often you can tell this because the documentation with the MIDI device will havea table in it showing which code values correspond to which letters and symbols e Script The name is some special format You will need to write a script that decodes the format into a full name and vice versa The documentation for the MIDI device should contain the complete details of how to convert the name information in the patch e Notin Patch There is no name information in the patch This is common with many effects units In this case Galaxy will keep track of aname for each patch to display in the bank window but this information is neither transmitted to nor received from the MIDI device The number of bytes into the patch data that the name in any format Starts If it starts at the first byte in the patch then the offset is 0 This value is not used and you can t set it if there is no name in the patch data Not In Patch selected for name conversion The number of bytes for the name in the patch data This is generally the number of characters in a patch name None or Table selected for name conversion but may be different if the name is in some special format Script selected This value is not used and you can t set it if there is no name in the patch data Not In Patch selected Opcode Publication 1950906 6 PatchTalk Guide Display N
21. also allowed to return a custom error message to PatchTalk External Put Commands PCmds CommandName ListOfValues into after Destination This command has the same form as Put and may therefore create new variables and modify existing ones if the same variable is specified for ListOfV alues and Destination It is provided to allow new transforma tions to be written similar to Nibblize and Denibblize Put merely transfers the data without modification Your PCmd can therefore sim ulate Put by simply doing nothing Nibblize and Denibblize happen to expand or collapse the data but this is not necessary Checksum merely appends a single byte which turns out to bea very helpful transformation You may write your own PCmd if you havea develop ment system that can generate code resources This is how you would define the procedure in THINK C pascal void myProc dataHandle Handle dataHandle Opcode Publication 1950906 34 PatchTalk Guide It is defined as a Pascal procedure to allow Pascal programmers to write PCmds The handle dataH andle consists of the data specified by ListOfValues It is modified directly by the procedure to return the result W hen it returns the data in the handleis placed in the variable specified by Destination Note that dataH andle is not locked The C code for Checksum and Checksum0 is supplied in the files Checksum c and Checksum0 c respectively Feel free to use these functi
22. ame If the number of characters used for a name by Galaxy is different Length than the number of bytes stored in the patch data if Scriptis selected for name conversion or there is no name in the patch data at all Not In Patch selected then this is the number of characters Galaxy should use to display the patch name Total Patch Size This valueis cannot be set It simply reports the total number of bytes Galaxy will be using to save each patch Has Edit Buffer This indicates whether the MIDI device has an edit buffer for the patch type An edit buffer is a separate area from the bank of patches in which many MIDI devices store the current patch being played and edited If your device has one and you set this to yes then when you send an individual patch from Galaxy the edit buffer will be used the Send Patch script will create the UseEditBuffer variable and set it to true Otherwise Galaxy will use the last patch location which will overwrite that patch Defining Custom Devices After you have created anew patch type for each of the MIDI device s patch types you will need to create a new device type that uses them A device type defines the device s name which patch types occur ina device and in what banks the patch types occur To define a custom device Choose Setups gt Galaxy Configuration Click the Devices button in the Galaxy Configuration Dialog Box Click New Custom to open the Define Custom Device dialog box
23. andle although it may empty it so that it contains 0 bytes of data Also be aware that all handles are not locked External Command Code Resources These external commands are implemented as code resources of the type PCmd and Cmd as their names imply You may put them in the resource fork of Galaxy while you re testing them but they should be placed in the module s resource fork that uses them before you distribute the module Note that when you export a module any external commands that it uses are not automatically exported You must manually copy them from Galaxy s resource fork into the module s resource fork using ResEdit Opcode Publication 1950906 37 PatchTalk Guide
24. ault timeout will be used Opcode Publication 1950906 13 PatchTalk Guide The optional wait clause puts a text message up for the user and waits indefinitely for the first byte of any MIDI message This is used when a MIDI device requires the user to press a button on the device itself to initiate the transfer of patch data to Galaxy Receive 68 into TheData get up to 68 bytes into the variable theData Receive 8 PatchSize into get a sys ex message that is TheData timeout after 500 8 bytes larger than the msec patch size but wait up to 500 milliseconds for the data Receive 8 PatchSize into get data but put up a mes TheData wait Now Push the sage for the user and wait Send Key indefinitely for the data ReceivePackets ReceivePackets HeaderSize TrailerSize MaximumSize into after Destination require ExactSize bytes optional timeout after Time seconds milliseconds optional wait UserMessage optional This is very similar to Receive only it provides some very convenient features This message will receive as much data as the MIDI device sends to Galaxy across several system exclusive messages if neces sary Furthermore the command will strip off H eaderSize bytes from the front and TrailerSize bytes from the end of each system exclusive message received Note that M aximumSize refers the maximum size of each individual system exclusive message not the whole set of messages The other parameters are j
25. chTalk The range violations however are extremely helpful They save you hours of frustration because they point out flaws in your logic imme diately since you should never access data that is meaningless Therefore examine your script with care after one of these messages until you understand what you are doing wrong and can decide on a correct way to accomplish your purpose Semantic errors occur when the command is understood parsed cor rectly but does not make sense under the rules imposed by PatchT alk semantics Examples of semantic errors in PatchTalk are e Specifying a range for a numeric variable For example number 1 is meaningless in PatchT alk and is there fore not allowed Note that neither a length nor a position is allowed e Specifying a range for a variable with no value This is a special kind of constraint violation since any range spec ified falls outside the range of data bytes Opcode Publication 1950906 30 PatchTalk Guide Syntax Errors Putting data after anumeric variable You can only add datato the end of astring variable Numeric variables can only have their contents replaced completely Putting data after a range of data in a variable eg Put F7 after Packet 1 50 There is nothing conceptually wrong with this it is just not sup ported by PatchTalk in this way To do this in PatchT alk put the data into the next position That is Put F7 into Packet 51 Attemp
26. d There are many types of errors that can occur while a script is being processed These include memory shortages constraint violations semantic errors and syntax errors When an error is encountered the script is aborted Sometimes a patch or bank has already been altered in which case the changes remain in effect If the bank is not correct it is set to the correct size and any partial or missing patches are set to the empty patch You define the empty patch by selecting apatch you want considered as empty then choosing Edit gt Set Empty Patch Although the data is probably meaningless when a script terminates after reading only part of the bank this should not be a problem since it is expected that the script will be fixed and re executed to over write any invalid datain the bank W hen afatal error occurs one which immediately terminates ex ecu tion of the script the script is opened and the insertion point is placed as close as possible to the end of the offending command You may then fix the problem and click on a bank window to gain access to the Load Send menu and run the script again Constraint violation errors occur as aresult of violating some range or length constraint For instance if you specify a byte range for a vari able that extends past the data or if you use too many characters in a variable name The length violations are merely an inconvenience to you but let you know when you exceed the limitations of Pat
27. e result prefixes an asterisk to the beginning of the patch name which starts at offset 33 repeat put 0 into PatchNum put Patch 32 into mode if mode 2 or mode 7 or mode 9 or mode 10 and Patch 33 lt gt then put Patch 33 9 into Patch 34 9 put into Patch 33 endif put PatchNum 1 into PatchNum until PatchNum 64 Opcode Publication 1950906 32 PatchTalk Guide Creating Custom Patch Labels Using Sizeof and Abort for Error Checking PatchNum is set to zero then incremented by one through each pass of the repeat loop As PatchNum is incremented Patch points to the next patch of data The script examines the number stored in Patch 32 and stores the value into mode If mode is equal to 2 7 9 or 10 and the first character of the name is not already an asterisk the script moves the first 9 characters of the name to the right by one thus making the first character location free then places a charac ter into the first character location for the patch name Some M IDI devices label their patches in different formats A popular method is to number 128 patches as a11 b88 The following script creates a custom patch label displaying patch labels as al1 b88 if patchNum lt 64 then put patchNum into x put a into PLabel else put patchNum 64 into x put b into PLabel endif put x 8 1 0 after PLabel put x mod 8 1 0O after PLabel put PLabel into Patc
28. hLabel Some M IDI devices cannot respond to a data request and require you to initiate the data dump manually If you make a mistake and press the wrong buttons or if AppleTalk happens to be on wrong data may be received by Galaxy If Galaxy gets wrong data a script error mes Sage may appear To stop this from happening you can check the size of the received data to the size that you expect and post a message if the data was wrong Example ReceivePackets 4 2 80 4 2 into inData if sizeof inData lt gt 80 then Abort Wrong data received or AppleTalk is ON endif This script will abort and display a message if 80 bytes of data were not received Opcode Publication 1950906 33 PatchTalk Guide Sending Other MIDI Messages Remember that PatchTalk does not limit you to sending system exclu sive messages only The Send command can transmit any type of M IDI message Feel free to utilize program changes when a parameter change is unavailable as well Extending PatchTalk Extending the PatchT alk commands will give you additional power to manipulate data within PatchTalk The PCmd is the simplest external function both to create and to use It is used exactly the same way as the Put command and is in fact how the Checksum and Checksum0 commands are implemented The Cmd is much more general It accepts any number of parameters consisting of numbers and handles to data In the event that some thing goes wrong it is
29. ight have card voices and internal voices then this is the name of the bank you re working with If the bank is not part of a bundle then this variable is the empty string The collection of all the patches being edited Contains the patch data for all the patches in the bank Cannot be changed in the Send Bank script string When writing aGet Bank script you will load data into Bank Similarly when writing a Send Bank script you will send data that is contained in Bank This is the patch data in Bank for the patch whose number is Patch Num Changes to this variable change the appropriate data in Bank also string Opcode Publication 1950906 19 PatchTalk Guide PatchNum Get Patch and Send Patch Scripts Patch DevicePatchNum UseEditBuffer To Device Name and To Display Name DeviceNameLength DisplayNameLength DevicePatchName DisplayPatchName The number of the patch whose data is in the variable Patch num ber Changing the value stored in PatchNum will also change the data that Patch contains The patch data to be sent to or received from the M IDI device W hen writing a Get Patch script you will load data into Patch Similarly when writing aSend Patch script you will send data that is contained in Patch Note that the variable Patch does not work with the variable PatchNum as it does in the Get Bank and Send Bank scripts string The number of the patch in the MIDI device to get from or send t
30. in Bank Enter the number of patches that the M IDI device stores of this typein its memory Some devices can store more than one bank For example there might be an internal bank and a bank stored in a card In that case enter the number of patches stored in one of those banks Rows Columns in These let you set the number of rows count down the screen and col Bank umns count across the screen in a bank window Setting either number will set the other number to a useful value given the number of patches in abank Opcode Publication 1950906 4 PatchTalk Guide Patch Numbering Device ID Range Handshake on Send Size of Patch This is the way patches are referred to on the MIDI device Note that while MIDI always numbers patches from 0 to 127 most MIDI devices use anumbering system that the manufacturer thinks will be more convenient for the user This option lets you set up the patch type so that Galaxy will use the same method in bank windows that the M IDI device uses The options are e 0 n 1 The patches are numbered and the first one is 0 For exam ple there are 100 patches in a bank and they are numbered 0 through 99 L n The patches are numbered and the first one is 1 For exam ple there are 64 patches in abank and they arenumbered 1 through 64 e 11 88 The patches are numbered in groups of 8 For example there are 16 patches in abank and they arenumbered 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 21 22 23 2
31. is e g 3 4 A non terminated quote e g View Variables Sending the bank A negative number e g 2 to get a negative number subtract it from zero e g 0 2 Using a single minus sign for a comment comments are either two consecutive minus signs or a single dash Shift Option minus Opcode Publication 1950906 31 PatchTalk Guide PatchTalk Tips Putting Empty intoa If you have a succession of statements that put a value after a variable Variable the empty command may help you Putting empty into a variable cre ates the variable but does not put a value into it Because PatchT alk does not let you put a value after a variable unless the variable already contains a value empty is a convenient way around this put empty into Abank put 0 into i repeat send f0 43 00 07 f7 receivePackets 4 2 100 after Abank put i 1 into i until i 10 In the above example empty was used to create a variable Abank As i is incremented receivePackets puts the data after Abank By put ting empty into Abank an initial receivePackets 4 2 100 into A bank line is not needed Using PatchNumin Some PatchTalk scripts may require additional processing of bank Get and Send Bank data received on a patch by patch basis Take for example a script that Scripts examines a parameter in each patch and alters the data in the patch accordingly The following script examines parameter 32 and based on th
32. is executed repeatedly until the test specified in Condition is no longer true The Commands are executed at least once Put 0 into PatchNum Repeat Send SysExHeader PatchNum Patch F7 Put PatchNum 1 into PatchNum Until PatchNum is PatchesInBank Put into Alphabet Put 0 into HowMany Repeat Put A HowMany after Alphabet Put 1 HowMany into HowMany Until howMany 26 PatchTalk Variables A variable is a named place where a value can be stored It is likea mailbox with an address where the address is the variable s name W hile Galaxy is running a script a variable may hold different values at different times You can change the value stored in a variable with the Put statement You can use the value stored in a variable in any expression by typing the variable s name See the Put statement in the previous section for an example of what happens to a few variables Many variables already exist in PatchT alk These are special places that Galaxy will put important information and expect information when running your scripts Below is alist of all these variables and what information you will find in them M any of the descriptions refer to the patch type or the device or the bank Remember that each script is written for a specific patch type for a specific MIDI device When Galaxy runs the script it is because you re working with abank of information for that MIDI device Opcode Publication 19509
33. it as well There might also be PatchT alk instructions for decoding or encoding the data before and after transmission over MIDI Opcode Publication 1950906 9 PatchTalk Guide Typical format for a Get Patch script Send a System Exclusive request to the MIDI device Receive the patch data using Receive or ReceivePackets Process the data received if necessary Store the received data into the variable Patch Typical format for a Send Patch script Process the patch data if necessary Send the data out in the format that the MIDI device expects The types of processing that may be necessary include bit conversions or rearranging the data into an easily usable format It is recom mended that you use ReceivePackets when receiving data from the device because this command can automatically strip off header and trailer bytes from the system exclusive data Galaxy patches usually do not contain header trailer bytes or checksum W hen sending data to the device you may have to checksum the data sent PatchT alk has commands that handle a wide variety of checksum methods Opcode Publication 1950906 10 PatchTalk Guide Get Bank and Send Bank To Display Name and To Device Name Patch Number These scripts are similar to the Get and Send Patch scripts except they describe how to transfer a whole bank of patches at atime They are optional if you leave them blank then the patch scripts will be called
34. k Guide Strings Arrays You can refer to a portion of avariable s contents by typing a range The range is specified by two numbers in square brackets separated by a comma offset length after the variable s name The first value is the offset in bytes into the variable The second is the number of bytes to use You can omit length and it will default to one byte You can also replace length with to end or end and the rest of the variable will be used Some examples of Strings and Arrays include Put Johnson into FullName Put FullName 0 4 into ShortName Put FullName 0 into Initial Put FullName 4 3 into AWord Put FullName 4 to end into AWord Put woo into AWord 1 Put ed after AWord Put ny into FuliName 4 to end Put FullName AWord into Text Put empty into AnEmptyArray put a string into a new variable put John into another new variable just the first character IT put son into another new variable same thing change middle character to woo add ed change ending now is Johnny Johnny Swooned now you can put after with this array Strings are characters enclosed in double quotes such as J ohnson above The following characters have special meaning in an A SCII string Option L Continues the string on the next line all characters to the end of the line including the next
35. ndividual patch In this case you ll need to add up the sizes of each piece Consult the manual for your MIDI device carefully when choosing this number Opcode Publication 1950906 5 PatchTalk Guide Name Conversion Name Offset in Patch Name Length Some patch types don t havea standard size Examples are sequence and or pattern data in most drum machines For these types set this value to bulk by typing 0 into the numerical or sliding it all the way down Then your patch type will operate like the other bulk patch types of Galaxy NOTE When writing scripts for bulk patch types you must use the SendBulk and ReceiveBulk P atchT alk commands instead of the other MIDI transfer commands This tells Galaxy how to display the name for each patch Galaxy needs to have access to an ASCII representation of the name for each patch which is the standard way computers store letters Although many MIDI devices use this code some use other codes and some don t even have names in their patches at all There are four settings to let Galaxy know how to handle the names for the patch type e None Thereis no conversion necessary The name is contained in the patch data transmitted by the MIDI device after denibblizing the data if necessary as standard ASCII symbols This is the most common option to choose e Table The nameis in the patch but uses a different code although still one letter per byte You will have to write
36. ng special test operators Some examples are Deviceld gt 16 list of only one number PatchNum Data are the two things equal X gt 5 And X lt 15 are the two things equal The full list of conditional operators is or is equality 3 3 is true 3 4 is false less than 3 3 us 3 lt 4 is true false lt or S less than or 3 lt 3 is true 3 lt 4 is true equal gt greater than Bs PF ahs 3 gt 4 is false false gt or 2 greater than or 32 3 is true 32 4 is false equal lt gt or not equal 3 3 is 3 4 is true false condA true if both And conditions are condB true condA true if either Or condition is condB true Not true if the con cond dition is false and vice versa Opcode Publication 1950906 24 PatchTalk Guide Operator In the absence of parentheses the following order of precedence is Precedence used for numeric expressions The operators within the same row have equal precedence Those with highest precedence are listed on the first row Sub expressions are evaluated from right to left Not YA RA 4 lt lt gt gt lt lt lt is 2 gt gt lt gt Z And Or Messages A few commands use messages These are pieces of text that are dis played for you under various circumstances M essages are simply text between double quotes Abort The device sent bad MIDI Receive 100 wait Hit send on the MIDI Device Custom Menu Custom Define Custom Patch Type Edit
37. o Be sure to check the UseEditBuffer variable first because if it s set to true DevicePatchNum does not exist number fixed If UseEdit Buffer is set to false and DevicePatchNum is examined in the Get Patch script DevicePatchNum will contain the location of the cur rently selected patch in Galaxy s bank window In the Send Patch script DevicePatchNum will contain the last patch location if Use EditBuffer is set to false Is set to true if the script should get from or send to the edit buffer on the MIDI device If your device doesn t have an edit buffer this vari able should always be set to false When this is false you should get from or send to location DevicePatchNum condition fixed The following apply when Name Conversion in the Define Custom Patch Type dialog is set to Script The number of bytes used for the name in the patch number fixed The number of bytes used for displaying the name number fixed The name of a patch in the MIDI device s format The To Display Name script converts from this to the variable DisplayPatchName string The name of a patch as displayed by Galaxy The To Device Name script converts from this to the variable DevicePatchName string Opcode Publication 1950906 20 PatchTalk Guide NameChar Patch Label Script PatchLabel PatchNum User defined Variables PatchTalk Notes Commands The following occurs when Name Conversion in the Define Custom Patch
38. on 1950906 36 PatchTalk Guide The Parameters Examples The value CustomErrorM sg however allows the Cmd to display any error message it wants To return a custom error message create a handle containing the message using PtrT oH and for instance Then set errM sg to this handle and resultCode to CustomErrorM sg W hen you return PatchTalk displays the message and disposes of this handle for you Note that the maximum custom error message length is 255 characters and must be a Pascal string ThenumParams field contains the number of parameters passed to the Cmd It should be checked to make sure it is the number expected and if not BadParamCount should be returned in resultCode immediately The fields following numParams are pairs of parameters 4 bytes and their types 2 bytes Each parameter s type should be checked and an error returned if it is not the ty pe expected It could be disastrous if you use along integer as a handle TheC source code is supplied for the PatchT alk Cmds Separate and Collate in the files Separate c and Collate c respectively You may use these routines as a starting point when defining your own Cmds Passing String Data to External Commands Both types of external commands pass string data only as the contents of avariable Note that this results in ahandle being passed The external command may do whatever it wishes to the data in this han dle but it may not dispose the h
39. ons as starting points for your own PCmds If you don t havea development system and you really need a custom function get a friend to do it for you in exchange for the module you re writing assuming she owns Galaxy The code resource must have type PCmd and the same name as spec ified by CommandN ame General External Commands Cmds W hen a PCmd is not powerful enough to accomplish the task at hand consider writing a more general external command a Cmd Cmds allow an arbitrary number of numeric and variable parameters to be passed to them They perform atask by altering memory just likea PCmd but they are more powerful since they accept more input In addition they allow amore specific error message to be given in case they don t succeed Their PatchT alk syntax is CommandName argil arg2 arg3 argN As with PCmds Cmds are code resources that are called according to Pascal calling conventions They also take a single argument But this is where they differ The argument is a parameter block a structure containing all the parameters The following is alist of constant values followed by the basic structure of the parameter block The args the arguments are numeric expressions and string variables separated by commas Error Types for resultCode enum NoError BadParamCount NeedMemoryError Gener alFailure CustomErrorMsg Parameter Types for paramType enum NumericType 1 St
40. riable or a numeric expression Numeric expressions can use any of the standard math operations Some examples are 123 a decimal number SFO a hexadecimal number CcO another hexadecimal number Sizetl0 the contents of the vari able Size plus 10 2 X 5 a mathematical expression A the ASCII numeric value for the character A 65 0 5 negative 5 you can t type in negative numbers directly The operators and functions understood in PatchT alk are Addition 15 4 is 19 Subtraction 15 4 is 11 a Multiplication 15 4 is 60 Integer Division 15 4 is 3 mod Modulo 15 mod 4 is 3 lt lt Shift Left 15 lt lt 4 is SOOFO gt gt Shift Right 15 gt gt 4 is 0000 Nibble 15 4 is SF4 concatenation Byte value Forces value to Byte f0f1f2f3 is fit in a byte SF3 Word value Forces value to Word Sf0f1Ff2f3 is fit in a word two Sf2f3 bytes Byte3 value Forces value to Byte3 Sf0f1f2f3 fit in three bytes is S f1f2f3 Long value Forces value to Long Sf0f1f2f3 is fit in a long SfOf1IF2F3 four bytes Sizeof value The size of value Sizeof abc is in bytes 3z To7BitHex Converts from 8 To7BitHex Sf123 value bit per byte is 36223 format to 7 bit per byte To8BitHex Converts from 7 To8BitHex Sf123 value bit per byte is 38a3 format to 8 bit per byte characters The numeric value A is 65 of the characters up to four Opcode Publication 1950906 22 PatchTal
41. ringType 2 Opcode Publication 1950906 35 PatchTalk Guide Cmd Errors Data fields are of this type typedef union long longNumber Handle handle LongOrHandle The following structure occurs once for each parameter typedef struct LongOrHandle param int paramType CommandParameter The parameter block typedef struct ant resultCode result of Cmd initially NoError Str255 errMsg string to be displayed when CustomErrorMsg is returned Byte reserved 6 int numParams the number of parameters actually sent to us CommandParameter par 10 numParams defines the number of array elements which actually occur GeneralCmdParamBlock Defining this structure in your development environment makes it easier to refer to the parameters from within your Cmd The first two fields are used for reporting errors to the user The field resultCode may have one of the listed error values where NoError is 0 BadParamCount is 1 etc The resultCode field is set to NoError upon entry so you do not need to set it if all goes well If an error occurs however resultCode may be set to indicate the type of error If it is anything but NoError the current script will be aborted The first three error codes tell the user that an incorrect number of parameters was passed the command ran out of memory and the command failed respectively Opcode Publicati
42. t If so you can concentrate on the commands after this onein the script since you have determined that it s correct up to this point e View the patch data dumped from the device using its front panel This is useful both to check the sys ex header of the data it sends to make sure you found it correctly in the device s manual and to make sure you re getting the same thing when you ask for it over MIDI as opposed to using the device s front panel e Decipher the encoding scheme of a patch when the device s User M anual is unclear See Deciphering Patch Data which follows Shortly The MIDI cables are not connected from the interface to the device properly The computer is not connected to the M IDI interface properly e Is OMSMIDI Setup in the Setups menu notified of the proper port printer or modem e If you re using the MIDI Manager Is the port you re using turned on and is Galaxy connected to the OMS MIDI M anager driver in PatchBay e The interface does not have power Ask yourself the following e Does the message begin with F0 e Does the message end with F7 e Does the sys ex data match the specification in the device s User s M anual e Is the devicelD variable if used set to the correct value e Is the size of the sys ex message correct e If achecksum is included is it correct e Have you checksummed the proper data e Do any of the values in the data exceed 7F Opcode Publication
43. t any further and displays an optional error message for the user You might use this command when you detect the MIDI device is sending bad MIDI information Abort cancel operation of the script Abort The MIDI data was tell the user of a problem bad Check the device with the device Abort Bad data received tell the user to turn off make sure AppleTalk is OFF AppleTalk Put ListOfValues into after Destination This command puts the result of the ListOfV alues into the Destination The ListOfV alues may be either a number a string or a list of arith metic expressions and strings separated by spaces The Destination can be an existing or anew variable Put 9 into x x now has 9 in it Put x 3 into y y now has 27 in it Put Hello into x x now has Hello in it Put World after x x now has Hello World in it Put temp 23 10 into replace 10 bytes of Patch Patch 0 10 starting at offset 0 with 10 bytes of temp at offset 23 Put C DeviceNumber y z has a program change 27 into Z message in it Opcode Publication 1950906 15 PatchTalk Guide Nibblize DeNibblize Checksum Checksum0 View NOTE After can only be used with an array that already exists See the section Putting Empty into a Variable for more information Nibblize ListOfValues into after Destination DeNibblize ListOfValues into after Destination Checksum ListOfValues into after Destination
44. t valid MIDI messages are sent and that any device IDs or channel assignments get encoded into the data see the second example Send SF7 send an end of system exclu sive message Send SC DeviceID 7F send a patch change to patch 127 Note the use of adding the Device ID variable to send the program change on the right channel SendBulk This sends the contents of a bulk window to the MIDI device Use the ReceiveBulk command to get the data Use this only with patch types that have their Patch Size set to Bulk Receive MaximumSize into after Destination require ExactSize bytes optional timeout after Time seconds milliseconds optional wait UserMessage optional This gets one system exclusive message over M IDI and places it into or after the Destination Any additional data beyond the number stated M aximumSize are lost The optional require clause specifies the exact number of MIDI bytes required If a different number of bytes is received too many or too few then the operation fails and the user will get a message Use this whenever you know exactly how many bytes the MIDI device should send to you The optional timeout clause specifies the amount of time to wait for a message If this time is exceeded the receive command will fail and the user will get atime out message Note that sand sec are acceptable abbreviations for seconds as are msand msec for milliseconds If no timeout is specified a def
45. tch type and script to view View patch types Installed in Galaxy 1 In other module 30 Choose a custom patch type HS Combis 5 Global Drums HS Multi Effects 3 Programs Cancel 3 Script Get Patch Script T Figure 8 View Script Dialog Box Opcode Publication 1950906 26 PatchTalk Guide Click Installed in Galaxy to choose among patch types currently installed in Galaxy Click In other module to choose a module docu ment from which you want to select a patch type The patch types installed in Galaxy or in the selected module document appear in the scrolling list Select a patch typein the list and select a script from the pop up menu at the bottom of the window then click OK to open a script editing window You won t be able to make changes to scripts opened in this way but it can be very useful for basing a new script on an existing one Execute Current Runsthe script in the active script editing window operating on the Script topmost bank window of the proper patch type Patchtalk Troubleshooting Aswith any task if something goes wrong you d like to know what it is so you can fix it PatchTalk is a tool for performing tasks for Galaxy when a task doesn t perform its function properly you ll want to find out what s wrong and correct the problem This is called debugging Viewing the The PatchTalk View Variables command can be used for debugging Contents of aswell as learning about PatchTalk
46. ting to use the bulk commands on anon bulk bank ReceiveBulk and SendBulk may only be used on bank windows defined as Bulk in the Define Custom Patch Type dialog box Using unknown units PatchT alk currently supports seconds must begin with s and milliseconds must begin with ms Accessing a variable that does not exist has not been defined by putting data into it Using a string variable as a number without specifying a range Up to 4 bytes of a string variable may be used as a number in a numeric expression Both astarting position and alength must be specified e g Put SysExH eader 8 4 lt lt 2 into Address Specifying a position or length of a range less than 1 The first byte of a variable is 1 so the position cannot be less than this If the length is not specified it is taken to be 1 but no less than 1 byte of data can be used for anything so the length if spec ified must be greater than zero Specifying anumeric string in single quotes of more than 4 char acters e g A BCDE Syntax errors occur when acommand cannot be interpreted This occurs when the command does not conform to the syntax specifica tion of PatchTalk If the problem is known it is identified by an error message Otherwise you are simply notified that a syntax error has occurred Examples of a syntax errors are Not following a command with a command terminator semicolon or carriage return An unmatched parenthes
47. ust like those in the Receive command ReceivePackets 6 2 get up to BankSize bytes BankSizet6 2 into theData into the variable theData from multiple system exclu sive messages throwing away the first 6 and last 2 bytes of each messag ReceivePackets 6 2 as above but only wait up BankSizet6 2 into theData to 1 4 second for the data timeout after 250 msec to arrive ReceiveBulk ReceiveBulk MaximumSize optional timeout after Time seconds milliseconds optional wait UserMessage optional Opcode Publication 1950906 14 PatchTalk Guide Delay Abort Put Like ReceivePackets this command gathers all data the MIDI device has to send However it takes the data exactly as received and places it into the bulk window Use this only with patch types that have their Patch Size set to Bulk Setting Maximum Size to 0 will tell Galaxy to allocate half of the available memory for bulk operations ReceiveBulk unlike ReceivePackets will accept non system exclu sive data The other options are just like the Receive command Delay Time seconds milliseconds This causes Galaxy to wait the specified time before doing anything else Some devices require short pauses before sending or receiving MIDI data Consult the MIDI device s manual for its requirements Delay 50 msec wait 1 20 of a second Delay 2 60 60 seconds wait 2 hours while you go eat dinner Abort ErrorMessage This stops Galaxy from running the scrip
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