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1. Page 26 of 30 Germany Netherlands Requirements are still adequate Uncertainty is insufficiently defined Some general used probablility statement needs to be added Norway In the sentence The average error of all results shall be within 1 km h Relative to which referance Poland The requirements named above seem to be still appropriate with respect to radar equipment only Supposedly they should be changed if they are to refer to other equipment As an example making 500 measurements for testing time speed equipment does not seem justified Possibly field tests could be different for various type of equipment Romania Spain It could be considered appropriate with some remarks For autonomous speedmeters it two pictures of the vehicle offender are needed in order to assure the measurement Serbia Sweden We believe the requirements are generally ok but the text needs to be updated to include other measurement techniques Switzerland due to the presence of more than one vehicle etc The maximum measurement uncertainty over the different speed section has to be checked under worse case traffic situation on the road or with significant HF Simulation The error distribution shall be determined under conditions of variable speed and traffic density and if possible at various temperatures2. Norway Poland Not more than 1 3 of the required MPES seems to be satisfactory Romania _ Spain We agree with this statement and this is one of the reasons why MPES should be higher than 1 km h Serbia Sweden It could be hard to find outdoor references with that accuracy Switzerland accepted Page 24 of 30 United Kingdom Agreed in principle Since we prescribe units in mph and MPES of 2mph this means this is 2 3 mph We have chosen to make this Imph to be an integer in our units of measurement Page 25 of 30 XII Field It is recommended that the metrological tests be completed by an operating test in actual traffic This overall study of possible Tests errors seems indispensable due to the complexity of factors affecting the result of a measurement shape of antenna lobe lateral distance between radar and passing vehicle reflection characteristics of the latter change of lane during passage through beam braking delays in measurement due to the presence of more than one vehicle etc The error distribution shall be determined under conditions of variable speed and traffic density and if possible at various temperatures The average error of all results shall be within 1 km h For pattern approval 500 measurements shall be made of which
3. The influence of the temperature and humidity and with critical EMC disturbances can only be checked in the temperature chamber or EMC chamber under simulation condition The average error of all results shall be within 1 km h The mean deviation in the different speed section shall be 1 5 lt m lt 0 5 Because round down of the output speed value to 1 km h For pattern approval 500 measurements shall be made of which none shall give a positive error larger than 3 km h or 3 at speeds above 100 km h Results that are recognizable as faulty by any user familiar with the handbook shall be discounted Expanded error limits Test condition on the road or with simulation Page 27 of 30 Speed variation of the measured vehicle is lt 1 The traffic condition shall consider all categories of vehicles types motorcycles small and long cars lorries trucks tractor trailer etc The speed system shall be able to measured speed values Mean deviation 1 5 lt m lt 0 5 Standard deviation s lt 0 8 m t3xs lt 3 No value with a positive error larger than 3 km h or 3 at speeds above 100 km h Additional tests The speed system shall be able to distinguish 2 vehicles in near position to each other and with small different speeds If fewer measurements are made they are to be considered as a sample which by its result shall validate the same error limits as would 500 measurements T
4. observance of the road traffic rules will be sent soon after be translated to English France The French regulation concerns immediate speed end average speed Curently three technologies are deployed Radar LASER technology and loops Due to government decisions many speedmeters are equipped with digital cameras and are totally automated Germany In Germany there exist national requirements that cover radar lidar typically handheld laser scanners inductive loops pressure sensors piezoelectric and optical and light barriers PTB A 18 11 requirements on mobile video based speed enforcement PTB A 18 3 and on red light surveillance PTB A 18 12 18 11 also contain requirements on digital photo documentation All requirements are only available in German Dr Ulrich Grottker PTB AG8 53 convener TC5 SC2 Software Netherlands Norway There are no laws regulations of the country concerned in Norway which comprise by type approval of speedometer equipment However the Public Roads Administration Statens vegvesen in Norwegian wanted us Norwegian Metrology Service Justervesenet in Norwegian as an independent third party to evaluate their soeedometer equipment Digital Automatic Traffic Surveillance DATK system according to defined requirements that should give acceptance for use of the system The Public Roads Administration and The Norwegian Metrology Service made a contractual agreement for DATK system approval in
5. of speed measurement involving a different principle such as two images taken a known time apart for verifying the primary measurement Page 6 of 30 Il Subcommittee Representation Country TC Representative Australia Dr Richard Brittain LLB Senior Legal Metrology Policy Officer Legal Metrology Branch National Measurement Institute Bradfield Road West Lindfield NSW 2070 Australia postal address PO Box 264 Lindfield NSW 2070 Australia ph 612 8467 3645 fax 61 8467 3899 mobile 61 408 617 438 e mail richard brittain measurement gov au Austria Respondent s contact information Bernd Sahlender Contact information for TC7 SC4 Representative bernd sahlender bev gv at Brazil FABIO DE SOUZA LOPES National Institute of Metrology Normalization and Industrial Quality INMETRO ADDRESS Av N Sa das Gracas 50 Building 11 Xer m Duque de Caxias Rio de Janeiro Brazil 25250 020 Telephone 55 21 2679 9411 Telefax 55 21 2679 1761 E mail lt fslopes inmetro gov br gt Cyprus Ntinos Hadjiconstantinou Cyprus Representative at CIML and TC7 SC4 Czech Pavel Klenovsky Czech Metrology Institute Okruzni 31 638 00 Brno Czech Republic and Republic Milan Prasil Czech Metrology Institute V Botanice 4 150 72 Prague 5 France Bernard VAN MARIS Germany CIML Member Netherlands gteunisse verispect nl and pkok nmi nl cvmullem verispect nl Norway and TC7 SC4 R
6. speed measuring devices are regulated in your country are they type approved and what the performance specifications are Please send us your applicable specifications If they aren t available in English could your country supply a translation of the metrological and technical requirements Please attach documents with your reply The Secretariat has placed appropriate US documents on the OIML TC SC website and plans to place submitted documents in the same location Country Regulated Type Approved Comments Australia Australia is a federation of states with state and federal governments Responsibility for national technical infrastructure rests with the federal government whilst responsibility for vehicle speed regulation using measuring instruments of the type covered by R91 rests with the state governments and their instrumentalities As a result of vehicle speed measuring instruments are not pattern approved in Australia even though the federal government acting through the NMI provides national pattern approve infrastructure Further arising from Australia s constitutional structure and the lack of a suitable up to date international pattern approval standard vehicle speed measuring instruments in use in Australia are subject to an informal state by state approval regime often predicated on legal declarations that certain model of instrument are deemed suitable for use in a particular state Austria At the moment
7. OIML TC7 SC4 Inquiry Responses on the Revision of R91 Radar equipment for the measurement of the speed of vehicles September 2011 Page 1 of 30 TC7 SC4 Composition at the time of the 2010 inquiry BIML Secretariat UNITED STATES Dr Ambler Thompson Physical Scientist NIST National Institute of Standards and Technology 100 Bureau Drive M S 2600 Gaithersburg Maryland MD 20899 2600 Tel 1 301 975 2333Fax 1 301 926 0647 Email ambler nist gov P Members 21 AUSTRALIA CZECH REPUBLIC GERMANY NORWAY RUSSIAN FEDERATION SLOVENIA SWITZERLAND O Members 9 BRAZIL DENMARK KOREA R Countries replying 1 Austria Brazil O Cyprus O Czech Republic France Germany Netherlands Norway Poland Romania RO 00 SOY OY NS e e e O Serbia Spain O Sweden e rere a UUN Switzerland He UI United Kingdom 16 USA Inquiry Questions AUSTRIA FINLAND JAPAN POLAND SERBIA SOUTH AFRICA UNITED KINGDOM BULGARIA EGYPT P R CHINA Page 2 of 30 10 00 N O AUT ye O e rererere WwW Ne O BELGIUM FRANCE NETHERLANDS ROMANIA SLOVAKIA SWEDEN UNITED STATES CYPRUS IRELAND SPAIN Country Documentation SC Representation Speed Technologies Title Scope MPES Units Accuracy Classes Technologies Rated Operating Conditions Simulators Field Tests Document Development Volunteers Country documentation The Secretariat is interested in whether
8. accordance with OIML D11 Edition 2004 General requirements for electronic measuring instruments OIML R91 Edition 1990 Radar equipment for the measurement of the speed of vehicles WELMEC Guide 7 2 Software Guide Measuring Instruments Directive 2004 22 EC Speedometer equipment technical documentation EN 61000 6 2 2005 EMC immunity for industrial environments EN 61000 6 3 2007 EMC emission for residential commercial and light industrial environments Poland In Poland the speed measuring instruments for road traffic control are subject to type approval initial and subsequent verification The requirements are given in the regulation of the Minister for Economy The basic requirements given in the regulation are as follows 1 minimum speed range 30 220 km h speed indicated in km h maximum scale division 1 km h 2 the instrument should stop working when the supply voltage is Page 4 of 30 below 90 or above 120 of rated supply DC or AC voltage for an instrument powered from an external source below 90 of rated supply voltage for an instrument powered from an internal source 3 ambient temperature at least from 0 deg C to 50 deg C 4 air relative humidity in the range from 20 to 95 5 MPEs type approval initial and subsequent verification in reference conditions 1 km h below 100 km h 1 of the measured value above 100 km h in rated working condit
9. alia s legislation talks in terms of measuring instruments so we would prefer a title along the lines of Vehicle Speed Measuring Instruments for Traffic Safety However we are willing to accept the suggested revised title if it represents a consensus amongst members Austria Traffic Soeed Measuring Instruments but your suggestion is as well Brazil Ok Cyprus The Speed Measuring Equipment for Traffic Safety would be better because it covers bigger spectrum of work Czech We agree and support your suggestion Republic France Germany Netherlands vehicle or traffic soeed measurement systems Norway The Norwegian Metrology Service support the new title Poland The proposed title seems to be acceptable possibly it could be Speed measuring equipment for road traffic control Romania The more general title of Speed Measuring Equipment for Traffic Safety suggested by you is more appropriate Spain We would prefer Speed Meauring systems for Traffic Safety Serbia OK Sweden We Agree Switzerland accepted United We agree that the title should be changed This would be done most simply by dropping the word radar from the existing Kingdom title but the suggested new title would also be acceptable Page 11 of 30 V Scope The current scope of R91 is inappropriate if we are going to include other technologies w
10. amination level am prepared to assist TC7 SC4 in this task if need be Dr Ulrich Grottker PTB AG8 53 convener TC5 SC2 Software Netherlands It is suggested to see to it that user manual clearly informs and explains this to the users operators Norway The Norwegian Metrology Service are positive and support the suggested scope Romania _ Poland The suggested scope seems to be appropriate nonetheless taking into account the rapid progress in technology it seems doubtful if the recommendation really will cover all equipment Spain We agree with the proposal Serbia Sweden A good suggestion see our comment on speed technologies Switzerland accepted Page 12 of 30 United Kingdom We agree with this proposed wording Page 13 of 30 VI MPES The current MPES in R91 are 1km hr or 1 above 100 km hr This is both for laboratory as well as field testing Country Comments Australia Australia is happy to continue with these MPEs however in our work on developing a metrolgical control regime for vehicle speed measuring instruemnts we have been working on the basis of MPEs of or 2 km h up to 100 km h and or 2 above 100km h These MPEs were based on considerations or practicality and we are happy to further discuss this matter Austria suggest the common MPES i
11. ania The cosine effect alignment masking shadowing etc could be dealt with in the technical documentation of the instrument the Recommendation could contain a requirement indicating that this information should be included in the handbook Spain we agree Serbia OK Sweden We agree As we mention above we suggest to try to keep it as technology unspecific as possible Hopefully it will be sufficient with sections with test recommendations for the different technologies Radar lidar and time distance sounds like a good starting point Switzerland accepted United Agreed but we should like included all the technologies referred to in our comments above Kingdom Page 20 of 30 X Rated From R91 1990 Operating PRA Conditions Minimum temperature range 0 C 50 C For outdoor installations 20 C 60 C The radio frequency immunity requirements in R91 are clearly outdated propose that we specify The instrument shall be subjected to a field strength of 10 V m in the frequency range 26 MHz 2 GHz the signal being modulated with 1 kHz 80 AM sine wave With special attention in cell phone bands digital radio bands police and others and in device under test clock frequencies Country Comments Australia Temperature Australia is currently considering requiring that for pattern approval vehicle speed measuring instruents operate over the temperature range of 10 to 50 Celsius however were are prepred to furt
12. asel metas ch United 1 Stephen R Lewis Kingdom steve lewis homeoffice gsi gov uk Tel 44 0 1727 816 265 2 lan Humphrey lan humphrey homeoffice gsi gov uk Tel 44 0 1727 816 391 Home Office Scientific Development Branch HOSDB Woodcock Hill Sandridge St Albans Hertfordshire AL4 9HQ United Kingdom Fax 01727 816233 Page 30 of 30
13. ed to be implemented as default Suggestion Optional the manufacturer could choose to implement a device or software performing conversion to a regional or locally used unit of measurement but this cannot be considered the legal display So the SI value will always need to be indicated as well Furthermore the speed meter needs to be evaluated with sufficient resolution as to be able to convert the readings to the correct unit and to verify compliance to the MPE s Also verification of the correct calculation of the speed meter when switching units would be necessary Norway The Norwegian Metrology Service suggest the more universal metric system Poland The requirements in the US and EU should be as similar as possible In particular the MPES should be the same regardless of the units they are expressed in Romania Spain US is signatory of the Meter Convention the 11th General Conference on Weights and Measures 1960 adopted the name Syst me International d Unit s International System of Units international abbreviation SI for the recommended practical system of units of measurement So for the distance km should be used countries who use mile can easily convert km to mile using the conversion factor Serbia Page 16 of 30 Sweden We suggest to keep the document with one unit km h but to write define somewhere in the document that mph
14. epresentative Brit Furnes Wilkens email bfw justervesenet no working adress Fetveien 99 NO 2007 Kjeller Norway Phonenr 47 64 84 84 84 Poland Central Office of Measures ul Elektoralna 2 00 139 Warsaw Contact information for TC7 SC4 Representative Artur Troscianko tel 48 22 581 94 97 length gum gov pl Romania Romanian Bureau of Legal Metrology e mail office brml ro Spain Belen Martin OIML cem mityc es amp bmblasco cem mityc es Serbia Mr Slobodan Zelenika Sweden CIML Member Page 7 of 30 Switzerland walter fasel metas ch United Kingdom 1 Morayo Awosola NMO Teddington TW 11 0JZ Tel 44 0 208943 7287 Morayo awosola nmo gov uk 2a Stephen R Lewis steve lewis homeoffice gsi gov uk Tel 44 0 1727 816 265 2b lan Humphrey lan humphrey homeoffice gsi gov uk Tel 44 0 1727 816 391 Home Office Scientific Development Branch HOSDB Woodcock Hill Sandridge St Albans Hertfordshire AL4 9HQ United Kingdom Fax 01727 816233 Page 8 of 30 Ill Speed Technologies What speed measurement technologies would your country like to see implemented in the R91 revision Automated and manual Country Comments Australia Australia would like R91 to be as technology non specific as possible to enable it to cover a range of current and emerging technologies focusing instead on the metrological characteristics that a speed measuring instrument should have rat
15. h non condensing humidity would be appropriate RFI We use 10V m from 80MHz to 2 GHz and conduct immunity tests from 27 MHz to 100MHz to level 2 of EN 61000 4 6 We use 90 modulation although we accept 80 is used by most countries We do however use different modulation depending on the technology We default to 1kHz sine wave when that is not warranted We use sinusoidal modulation for radar at a Doppler frequency corresponding to a different speed than the speed simulator frequency normally corresponding to a simulated speed of 30mph and modulation frequency corresponding to the Doppler frequency for 40mph With systems using piezo sensors square wave modulation is used with the timing period corresponding to pulse width expected from the sensor We also require a non standard test signal to test for immunity from Tetra radio used by the police We would suggest some provision allowing a non standard immunity test from operator s radios Page 23 of 30 xI Laboratory testing for influence factors and interferences should be done with simulators Field testing of devices should be Simulators done in comparison with certified speed measurement devices The uncertainty of simulators and outdoor references should be 1 3 of the required MPES Country Comments Australia Australia would support this approach Austria Do you mean the extended uncertainty k 2 If yes than agree Brazil Regarding the uncertainty
16. her consider this RFI Australia would support this but feels that testing should be upto 3 GHz if possible to allow for developmemts in the frequency bands used by mobile phones At present we are considering compulsory testing over the range 26 to 1400 MHz and up to 3 GHz if possible Austria Temperature Additional there could be a requirement for an automatic switch off if the temperature is out of the allowed range RFI In Austria and as know in Germany too we test with a field strength of 20 V m Brazil Temperature In Brazil there is no different ranges for indoor or outdoor instalations and the limits are 1029C and 552C RFI OK Cyprus Temperature We agree with the temperature range as mentioned above RFI Each type of speedometer should be tested for interference from other appliances as radios mobile telephones etc before is Page 21 of 30 given for use Czech Temperature Republic RFI We agree and support your suggestion with one exception of field strenght we prefer 20 V m France Temperature the French national regulation requires 20 C 60 C or 10 50 C with specifications of use RFI Germany Netherlands Temperature Keep stay in line with present future D11 RFI Comment from secretary TC 5 SC 1 D11 Update to the latest versions of the applicable IEC standards using OIML D11 together with E5 Implement ESD and c
17. her then the details of the technology At present the following technologies are employed for vehicle soeed measurement in Australia Radar instruments Lidar instruments Induction loop sensor based instruments piezoelectric sensor based instruments fiber optic sensor based instruments Austria Radar Lidar hand held and scanner section control time over distance light barriers piezo inductive loops automated and manual Brazil In Brazil three technologies are used surface sensors inductive loops and piezos radars and Lidar These are the technologies that we would like to see implemented with special attention to inductive loops that represents our major concerns Some manufacturers have made us questions about speed measuring by image the speed is measured based on the vertical difference of their position in consecutive images or by average speed the license plates are identified in the beginning and in the end of a highway for example Fo us it s not primordial to include these technologies at this moment but it s a good opportunity to start the discussion of some new technologies Cyprus The automation technology for measuring speed would be more useful Czech We would like to see implemented both automated and manual speedometers microwave doppler radars lidars Republic time speed section France Radar Laser loops including immediate and average speed measurement in both automated and manual configurat
18. hese checks shall be done for both speed detection directions and for every antenna sensitivity For autonomous radars the results shall confirm the level of confidence required see point 2 7 The measuring system used for comparison shall have an uncertainty better than one third of that of the radar under test 99 8 of its results should have errors that are within 1 km h or 1 at speeds above 100 km h Comments and suggestions accepted United Kingdom We think that the field test requirements will need to be discussed for further development because vehicle and radar speed tecnology has changed significantly in the last decade The necessary requirements can be developed during technical committee discussions and the development stages of the drafts Page 28 of 30 XIII Document Development Volunteers Country Comments Australia Dr Richard Brittain LLB Science physics including measurement of time electrical engineering legal metrology policy and law chartered engineer and scientist and lawyer of the Supreme Court of NSW current practicing certifcate as a solicitor and barrister in NSW Austria Brazil FABIO DE SOUZA LOPES Substitute of the Head of Division of Measuring Instruments of Length and Force of INMETRO BRAZIL Cyprus Due to the fact that we have not the appropriate expertise in the relevant field we do not feel that we ca
19. ions 3 km h below 100 km h 3 of the measured value above 100 km h 6 the instrument should be immune to a electromagnetic fields being modulated with 1 kHz 80 AM sine wave and strength 10 V m in the range 27 MHz 1 GHz 20 V m in the range 1 4 GHz 2 GHz b electrostatic discharges 6 kV direct contact discharge 8 kV air discharge 8 kV indirect discharge to Vertical Coupling Planes VCP and Horizontal Coupling Planes HCP 7 the instrument should be immune to electrical fast transient bursts positive and negative polarization duration time of 50 ns and rising time of 10 ns the peak voltage equals to j 1 kV at power and grounding connector 0 5 kV at signal and control connectors 8 vibrations the frequency from 20 Hz to 150 Hz RMS value of acceleration up to 20 m s2 for instruments foreseen to be installed and used in moving vehicles 9 for instruments powered exclusively by DC voltage from internal power sources the tests 6b indent one and two and the test 7 indent one are not applicable Romania In Romania the speed measuring devices are regulated by the Legal Metrology Norm NML 021 05 Instruments for the measurement of speed of road vehicles cinemometers and are subject to type approval The metrological and technical requirements are contained in NML 021 05 with subsequent amendments see our website lt www brml ro regulament 764 2008 gt An English translati
20. ions Germany Netherlands Both automated and manual systems In NL radar laser lidar vehicle detector for example inductive loops piezo light beams speedmeters and Point to Point systems named section speed meters in Dutch regulation average speed over distance both stationary and mobile are in use This might however be too much to include in one and the same Recommendation Norway Time distance speed measurement and Lidar Page 9 of 30 Poland The R91 revision should at least cover radar lidar and variations of time distance speed measurement Automatic as well as operated manually instruments should be included Romania Spain Automated mainly Serbia all three major technologies Sweden We suggest to try to keep the R91 document as technology unspecific as possible i e if possible specify requirements on functions rather than on the technology in order to make it easier for development and implementation of new technologies The R91 document would thus stay valid longer We believe however that it could be difficult to incorporate other technologies than transmitting devices and keep the level of requirements If technology specific test methods need to be defined we suggest to put recommendations regarding these in annexes as guides for test laboratories We suggest to have both automated and manual equi
21. km h and 1 above 100 km h for laboratory circumstances and 3 km h below 100 km h and 3 above 100 km h on the road field conditions Norway Norwegian Metrology Service has used the same limits Poland It seems that MPE equal to 1km h is not appropriate for field tests Romania Spain In our opinion those MPES are too low the resolution of most of speed meters is 1 km h and this is just one of the contributions to the uncertainty Regarding laboratory and field testing MPES field MPES for fiel tests should be higher than MPES for laboratory test because the number of contributions to the uncertainty is higher The symbol for the unit of hour is h so it should Page 14 of 30 be km h instead of km hr Serbia Sweden OK should be combined with a maximum positive error as in current version of R91 Switzerland This requirement under Pt 7 1 3 R91 is only for testing of the low frequency section This check is for today s technologies no more applicable for ex Laser loop detectors etc United The current limits are fine for laboratory tests using simulated inputs For field testing the limits currently given in 7 3 i e out of Kingdom 500 measurements none shall give a positive error larger than 3km hr or 3 above 100 km hr are still appropriate Page 15 of 30 VII Units The US s
22. may be used and which conversion factor that should be used in that case Switzerland 2 mph 3 km h for speeds lt 100 km h or 60 mph gt 100 km h or 60 mph 3 United We need to continue to use mph because the British speed limits which the devices are used to enforce are set in mph Kingdom The Recommendation could simply prescibe equivalences We use 2 mph instead of 3km hr 66mph instead of 100 kph and 1mph for testing with simulated inputs Page 17 of 30 VIII Accuracy Currently R91 has a single accuracy class would there be any benefit to having 2 to 3 accuracy classes perhaps as multiples Classes of 1km hr or 1 above 100 km hr Country Comments Australia Australia has not approached this matter in terms of accuracy classes However based on the fact that R91 has MPE requirments that differ from those under condideration in Australia it may be appropriate to include them in R91 so that the needs of as many members as possible can be covered by R91 Austria In my opinion there is no need for more than one class Brazil We don t see benefits having more than 1 accuracy class Cyprus In our opinion one class of accuracy is enough Czech we support only one accuracy class Republic France To avoid the contestings before the law courts France is not favorable to this opportunity Germany Netherlands May be some open class NL em
23. n Europe 3 km h till 100 km h and 3 above 100 km h for field testing and real use and 1km h till 100 km h and 1 above 100 km h for laboratory tests with simulated signals Brazil For laboratory tests we consider appropriate the current MPES For field testings we consider inappropriate that the average error of all measurements is 1 km h or 1 above 100 km h because our experience shows that if we had adopted this criterion in Brazil a lot of instruments would not have been approved In field tests our only criterion is that no measurement can give an error larger than 3 km h So we suggest that average error rises for 1 5 or 2 km h and that the negative error presented by the instrument during the field test must also be considered as a criterion af approval because we consider the following no driver can be punished unjustly but he can not escape punishment if it is deserved We also suggest greater errors for mobile instruments Cyprus It would be useful if the above term is included in the specifications Czech we would suggest MPEs 1 km h or 1 above 100 km h for laboratory testing and 3 km h or 3 above 100 km h for field Republic testing France for field testing MPES seems to be 3 km h or 3 in R 91 Restriction of MPES to 1 km h or 1 does not seem to be very easy to reach with radar or lidar technologies Germany Netherlands Not correct 1 km h below 100
24. n participate in this work Czech Milan Prasil Czech metrology institute V Botanice 4 150 72 Prague 5 Republic mprasil cmi cz gsm 420 733 696 109 in speed measurements France Germany Netherlands gteunisse verispect nl and pkok nmi nl and Ted Janssen Senior Advisor Gatsometer bv Claes Tillyweg 2 2031CW Haarlem The Netherlands GSM 31 654977917 e mail ted gatso nl Teunisse over 25 years of experience in EMC measurement and testing and D11 aspects Kok over 20 years experience in type examination and verification of speed meters for enforcement Janssen over 40 years of experience of developing and giving instructions training and presentations Homologations approvals worldwide and expert witness in court for the various types of speed and red light enforcement Page 29 of 30 equipment Norway Brit Furnes Wilkens email bfw justervesenet no Working Address Fetveien 99 NO 2007 Kjeller Norway Phonenr 47 64848484 Poland Romania Spain Belen Mart n Agust n Falc n Serbia Sweden Therese Berg Sensys Traffic AB Mail therese berg sensys se Direct 46 36 44 20 230 Mobile 46 722 327 230 Automatic enforcement equipment based on down the road radar technology Switzerland walter f
25. new regulations for speed meters are in the process of putting into force Therefore it is not possible to send it because maybe they will be changed after the appraisal Brazil Speed measuring devices are regulated and type approved in Brazil The document that contains the metrological and technical requirements was made in 1998 based mainly on the R91 As well as R91 our document is also outdated especially because in Brazil the technology that prevailed over the years was the inductive loops representing more than 70 of our approved instruments We are at this moment reviewing our national regulation too expecting to publish it in 2011 So the reviewing of R91 can help us a lot especially with the inclusion of new technologies The document is not available in English so we translated it Some terms used in the translation can cause confusion in translation is always difficult to pass the original concept of the sentence but we tried our best Cyprus In Cyprus we do not have any Regulations for a specific type of soeedometers We are preparing technical specifications for soeedometers and then we purchase the equipment through a proper process The specifications are similar to other European Countries that are using the same kind of speedometers Czech The Czech official document about applicable specification General Measures Road Page 3 of 30 Republic Speedometers used to monitor
26. none shall give a positive error larger than 3 km h or 3 at speeds above 100 km h Results that are recognizable as faulty by any user familiar with the handbook shall be discounted If fewer measurements are made they are to be considered as a sample which by its result shall validate the same error limits as would 500 measurements For autonomous radars the results shall confirm the level of confidence required see point 2 7 The measuring system used for comparison shall have an uncertainty better than one third of that of the radar under test 99 8 of its results should have errors that are within 1 km h or 1 at speeds above 100 km h Country Comments Australia Australia would like to further discuss these requirements as part of the revision of R91 however we have not included such testing in our draft pattern approval standard and the availability of a comparison measuring system with an uncertainty of better than one third of the measuring instrument under test may be hard to realise in practice Austria Why do you define only a positive error for the field test suggest to include the negative one too see MPEs Again the question to the uncertainty k 2 or not Brazil OK Cyprus No comment Czech We do the described field test during type approvals but we can imaginate that now the most advanced methods could be used Republic e g we have a good experience using the lidar LTI simulator LSMS France
27. ok We suggest that new R91 contains a section defining the basic characteristics of the simulator apporiate to each technology Our major problem is with lidar instruments In many cases we used the distance as reference for laboratory tests but there is no defined errors for approval disapproval using distance Cyprus The Cyprus Police has only speed simulator Speed simulator checks speedometers after being repaired by the Police Technical Department As regards the uncertainty of simulators and outdoor references we agree that this should be 1 3 of the required MPES Czech we agree and support your suggestion We use for the field tests measuring car with GPS speedometer 0 2 km h uncertainty Republic France Germany Netherlands According to OIML D11 laboratory tests should be done as much as possible on the complete measurement instrument Only in case this is not possible a validated simulation method could be used instead of those parts of the measurement system that cannot be realized in the laboratory Beware that especially for EMC tests all wiring and even layout of wiring can be of high influence to the possible sensitivity for this kind of disturbances Furthermore suggested not to specify uncertainty but to limit uncertainty like the uncertainty in the simulated metrological quantity value and outdoor references shall be less than 1 3 of the required MPES
28. on of this document is not ready available but will be provided to you in short time Page 5 of 30 Spain X Find attached documents Serbia X Os Ce Sweden X The Swedish Police Board is the regulating authority in Sweden There are two separate regulations one on radar equipment and one on laser equipment The provisions are formulated in such a way that all equipment used shall be approved by the authority The authority then puts the technical requirements in the purchase criteria of the instruments For radar equipment the technical part of the requirements are based on OIML R 91 Switzerland X Legal bases Ordinance for Measuring Systems for Official Speed Checks of the Road Traffic SR 941 261 Directives for Speed Surveillance of the Road Traffic addressed at the police for the use Document OIML D11 ed 2004 United X We think it would be useful to take this opportunity to suggest inclusion of a secondary check Kingdom reference clearer than the note at the bottom of page 4 of OIML R91 A secondary check for automatic unattended equipment should be included as a desirable if not an essential requirement see section 5 7 1 of the Speedmeter Handbook We think therefore there should be a sentence in the main text of the Recommendation perhaps at the start of section 3 4 2 This could be on the following lines For automatic unattended operation it is strongly advised to have a second method
29. onduction related EMC requirements where applicable Use provided lay out from D11 D 11 is in revision now and especially the immunity to RF electromagnetic fields needs to be amended Note that specifically when observing the present version of the referred IEC 61000 4 3 published in 2006 one will detect that the frequency band for testing is extended to 6 GHz Above 1 GHz the tests shall be limited to those ranges which need special attention In Annex G of the standard a number of frequency bands of interest is specified Moreover in the draft Technical report IEC 61000 2 5 Ed 2 an inventory is made on EM environments This report could perhaps be useful mainly for selecting frequency bands although it has not yet reached its final stage At present there is a general consensus on setting the exposure level to 10 V m and the manner AM 1kHz sine and intensity 80 of modulation It is suggested to closely watch the proceedings of the documents mentioned Norway Temperature The Norwegian Metrology Service suggests a temperature range from 40 degrees Celsius to 60 degrees Celsius RFI Emission should also be considered Poland Temperature the required minimum temperature range should depend on the country where the equipment is to be used RFI According to Polish regulation in the frequency range 1 4 GHz 2 GHz the required field strength is 20 V m Romania _ Page 22 of 30 S
30. ould suggest This Recommendation is applicable to all equipment for the measurement of traffic speed on roads The Recommendation states the metrological performance that the equipment must satisfy when the results of measurement are to be used in legal proceedings The legal interpretation of the results of measurements the choice of technology and the conditions under which these instruments may be applied are left to national regulations Country Comments Australia Australia s legislation talks in terms of measuring instruments rather than equipment and we believe that the former is more the appropriate term for use in R91 Austria sounds good Brazil Ok The only doubt is when you say is applicable to all equipment because when the word all is used there is no resctrictions ie all kind of technologies can be included Cyprus It would be better if there are common Regulations for speed measurement equipment and also if there are common specifications for buying specific spoeedometers in the entire world Czech We agree and support your suggestion Republic France 4 Germany propose to integrate software requirements as laid down in Document D31 into the revised Recommendations As you know it is not enough to only quotate this Document in a Recommendation but it is necessary to adapt the severity level for acceptable technical solutions for the defined software requirements and the appropriate ex
31. pain Temperature we agree with the proposal RFI ecause conducted interferences happen at low frequencies two different tests should be established one conducted inmunity from 0 15 MHz to 80 MHz and the other radiated immunity from 80 MHz to 2 GHz among other requirements Serbia Sweden Temperature Are these requirements valid for both automatic fixed equipment and for hand held manual An option is that the manufacturer states the temperature range and the system is tested against that Or that different options are given like it was suggested for speed accuracy As an example Sweden needs 40 C 40 C for outdoor installations RFI We suggest to look at OIML D11 and use applicable requirements severity levels from that document Switzerland Temperature accepted At 20 the cold measurement instrument should start again autonomous and after a warm up time begin to measure At 60 no overheating in 24 h for fixed installed measurement systems Including humidity requirements D11 10 2 RFI from 80 MHz 1 GHz 20V m from 1 4 GHz 2 0 GHz 20 V m from 2 0 GHz 2 7 GHz 10 V m mod 1 kHz 80 United Temperature Kingdom Generally we are concenred with outdoor installations The UK and other European countries have agreed that the appropriate range would be 10 C to 50 C with condensing humidity For systems with parts used in an office environment 5 C to 40 C wit
32. pecifications for the most part are in miles per hour and several other member states also use this unit How can we deal with the unit differences so that type approval results are transferable to other nations Country Comments Australia Australia believes that the revised R 91 should be in metric SI units exclusively i e km h and that the member states seeking to use none metric SI units should make their own arrangements with respects to that matter Austria As see the recommendations until now deals with km h or m or km only R91 R21 suggest to keep staying inside the SI and to define the MPEs in km h Brazil No suggestions Cyprus We would like to suggest that in the menu of each speedometer the user must have the choice of speed measurement i e in kilometers per hour or miles per hour As regards the transfer of the type approval results to other nations this could be achieved by stating the conversion factor of km to mile and vice versa in revised R91 and the type approval certificates Czech in Europe the type approvals are not generaly accepted between EU countries so each country makes its own type approval the Republic unit is km h France Instruments could be able to measure and respect MPES in km h and in mph but the choice of the unit of speed should be able to be sealed if it is required according to the national regulation Germany Netherlands The formal SI units will ne
33. ploys a system in which a maximum MPE is required but allows for the manufacturer to specify a smaller MPE In that case the reduction ratio for all relevant MPE s is the same see attached draft NL regulation Norway Maybe for statistical purposes an error limit 3 km hr or 3 above 100km hr Poland It does not seem reasonable The would be offenders should be convinced that the speed is always measured with the same accuracy Romania A single accuracy class would be enough Spain we do not believe there is any need for accuracy classes the main objective is to punish the offenders and this should be done with the best technology available Serbia Sweden Yes we believe it is a good suggestion There may be equipment with lower speed accuracy but other qualities If larger positive errors will be allowed it should be carefully handled National regulators then put the accuracy class they need Switzerland For official traffic enforcement only one class Otherwise a enforcement harmonization for ex Project VERA will be difficult otherwise class 1 for speed instrument for complex traffic condition more than 1 car class 2 for speed instruments for simple traffic situation only 1 car in the complete measuring area 100 m for example radar guns Page 18 of 30 class 3 for monitoring speed instruments for technical checks of tachymeter for the road traffic depar
34. pment included Switzerland Automated FM CW Radars Lidars laser guns and laser scanner Barrier speed systems loop detectors piezo systems laser barrier and optical barrier We recommend to see all these speed technologies speed systems as black boxes and to fix only the measurement qualities maximum measurement uncertainty for the use of the police mobile or stationary United Both automatic and manual technologies should be covered Kingdom The automatic technologies should include radar across the road over the road amp down the road tracking piezo sensor inductive loop and distance time devices The manual technologies should incude radar laser amp distance time devices Performance specifications are given in HOSDB Handbooks copies of which are attached The documents are The Speedmeter Handbook Fourth Edition publication no 15 05 and amendments Nos 1 2 and 3 Automatic Distance Time Speedmeter Handbook 2nd Edition Provisional Publication No 02 06 and Erratum No 1 Manual Distance Time Speedmeter Handbook Publication No 55 04 Page 10 of 30 IV Title The current title of R91 Radar equipment for the measurement of the speed of vehicles would need to be changed if we include other measurement technologies would suggest a more general title of Speed Measuring Equipment for Traffic Safety Country Comments Australia Austr
35. tment etc United Kingdom No this would introduce unnecessary complexity confusion and scope for argument over the use of devices falling into different classes The current limits and a single accuracy class are appropriate Page 19 of 30 IX Technologies The secretariat plans to develop the revision of R91 to cover radar lidar and time distance measurements The same metrological requirements will apply to all devices Technical differences in the devices which are pertinent to the metrological performance of the device will be dealt with in technical requirements sections for example alignment cosine effect and time triggers on time distance measurements Annexes will cover the basic physics of the technologies Country Comments Australia Australia agrees that this it the appropriate way to make R91 technology non specific and would support revising R91 in this way Austria seems to be a good way Brazil Ok Cyprus No comment Czech we agree and support your suggestion Republic France ss _ Germany Netherlands O K and additional see the suggested vehicle detector systems Norway The Norwegian Metrology Service support this view We would like the recommendation to focus on functional requirements rather than detailed technical specification Poland It seems like a very good idea Rom
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