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1. 9 963 308 cost in the UK is a mighty 12p 22cents amp VAT so guess that s the right part Should you not be able to get the BMW part for whatever reason try an automotive store the dimensions are Outside Diameter 21 9mm Internal Diameter 18 3mm Thickness 1 3mm still had my old parts inc the washer This may have compressed a little after being torqued up but not by more than 0 05 to 0 1mm max HarveyMushman 02 23 2005 11 30 AM 50 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 i D a See that hex head bolt under Jim s index finger to the left of the roundel in the engine case What s it for Why does oil weep from the one on my bike _ kbasa 02 23 2005 12 04 PM Quote Posted by HarveyMushman _ 2 a See that hex head bolt under Jim s index finger to the left of the roundel in the engine case What s it for Why does oil weep from the one on my bike think it holds the lower cam chain guide It also provides the channel for all the oil to drain back out of the left head and back down to the crankcase if I m not mistaken BMW Rider 02 23 2005 12 21 PM 51 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal 52 of 52 Fabulous job Poolside thumb Eggggggggs cellent http www advrider com fo
2. ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Unplug the fuel injector electrical connector 6 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Remove the fuel line retainer spring clip 7 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 TLL Remove the two fuel line screws 8 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Pop off the injector fuel line 9 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Look at that the o ring stayed with the fuel line end cup 10 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal 11 of 52 a Pull out the fuel injector http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Put the o ring back on the injector 12 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVr
3. ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Wyauetin ADVrider http www advrider com forums index php GSpot http www advrider com forums forumdisplay php f 3 Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo J ournal http www advrider com forums showthread php t 69360 02 17 2005 07 28 PM Poolside Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo J ournal Last Saturday a friend and changed the cam chain tensioner on his 2001 GS Enjoy the photo journal To begin here is some information that will address a few common preliminary concerns The method of replacing the cam chain tensioner described here does not require a throttle cable readjustment K OK K OK OK OK K K K K The engine crankshaft does not have to be at TDC or BDC or any particular orientation But the tension side of the cam chain should be tight And the slack side of the cam chain should be slack This only means that before you start the job rotate the crankshaft a small amount in the direction it normally turns Turning the crankshaft by hand is easy to do Put the bike on the centerstand and put the gearbox in top gear Using your hands rotate bump the wheel forward until you feel some bit of engine compression then stop Good The cam chain slack is now on the tensioner side The chain slack is on the tensioner side when the engine is running The ch
4. about 1 9MB Send me a PM and I ll mail it to ya slowbike smallpenis 02 22 2005 01 10 PM Thanks Jim any chance of dropping down Jervis Bay way and running thru it again thumb Rad 02 22 2005 02 48 PM Quote Originally Posted by kbasa Done Where would you like me to send it Rad It s about 1 9MB Send me a PM and I ll mail it to ya Thanks will pm ya scooteraugO2 02 22 2005 03 27 PM Jim thanks for the photos Isn t that new tensioner about 150 each Is there a torque value for tightening the tensioner Is there one on the other side on the bottom easy to get to Both need to be replaced Do you think all GS 1150s need the new tensioner Is it one of those parts that will have a problem sooner or later Just curious followed some earlier posts about the tensioner fixing noisey engines Is this normal goop on a BMW throttle body 48 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 configurationspace 02 22 2005 04 20 PM believe this is only for the left side tensioner Nobody seems to have troubles with the right side one dunno In the BMW service manual under Engine gt Timing chain gt Chain tensioner they have 32Nm listed They also mention you should replace the seal every time you remove the tensioner can t seem to get a complete P N for the g
5. ain slack is normally on the tensioner side But sometimes when the engine stops the crankshaft rotates backward a small amount slackening the tension side Turning the crankshaft a small amount returns the chain slack to the tensioner side KK K OK OK OK K K K K The original tensioner has a spring And when unscrewing the tensioner when the last thread is reached the spring will push the tensioner body up from the bore The spring tension is gentle Gentle as in about 2 pounds About twice the spring tension of a retractable pen Also no parts can fly across the room The tensioner body will lightly contact the bottom side of the control arm and stop At that point the tensioner body will be only 2 3 of the way out of the bore That is as far as it can go under its own power 1 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Getting the tensioner the rest of the way out of the bore will probably consume the greatest percentage of the total job time It would be nice if the tensioner sprang out of the bore that would eliminate the only time consuming part of the job KK K OK OK OK OK K OK K No tensioner parts can fall into the engine from the tensioner bore Not even if it falls in just the right way At some point your hands will be working in a limited space while fiddling around trying to get the tensioner
6. asket seal It s 963 308 don t know what the first 5 digits are the MAX BMW fiche doesn t want to give them to me philschl 02 22 2005 04 34 PM am also keen to learn about the ins and outs of TB goop am starting a new thread on the topic kbasa 02 22 2005 05 13 PM PDF now available Steve Pickford 02 23 2005 12 05 AM Quote Originally Posted by configurationspace 49 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 believe this is only for the left side tensioner Nobody seems to have troubles with the right side one dunno In the BMW service manual under Engine gt Timing chain gt Chain tensioner they have 32Nm listed They also mention you should replace the seal every time you remove the tensioner can t seem to get a complete P N for the gasket seal It s 963 308 don t know what the first 5 digits are the MAX BMW fiche doesn t want to give them to me When replaced the l h tensioner last December it came with a new seal washer included No idea if this is standard or just the German Dealer using his initiative also torqued mine up to 32Nm I ll ask my dealer later for the part number as l m in there anyway collecting GSA screen parts Steve Pickford 02 23 2005 05 10 AM Copper Washer for the Cam Chain Tensioner BMW Part No 0711
7. e up and behind the suspension 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal 37 of 52 ALLEY OOP These casting marks are for component alignment http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 _ my wS eL fle LINE UP INTAKE TUBE AND THROTTLE BODY CASTING MARKS Rotate the fuel injector body out of the way and snap on the retaining clip 38 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 ROTATE SNAP ON INJECTOR RETAINING FIRST CLIB p The fuel injector retaining clip must slide on smoothly with a nice detent click when fully seated If the retaining clip does not slide on smoothly the problem is the injector is not pushed far enough into the fuel cap 39 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 ATTACH FUEL LINE BRACKET FIRST FUEL CAP UNTIL RETAINING CLIP SLIDES ON SMOOTHLY Rotate the injector body so that it is in front of the retaining clip 40 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advr
8. ead php t 69360 amp pp 40 j oh nj en 02 21 2005 01 33 PM That s a good question Oh Baldy paging Mr Baldy JJ Team Dennis 02 21 2005 02 03 PM Moved to the bottom of the page next to the donate button eap 02 21 2005 04 18 PM Quote Originally Posted by Team Dennis Moved to the bottom of the page next to the donate button Oh there it is confused Down at the frign bottom of the page GDMHK always moving things around huh thanks configurationspace 02 21 2005 08 28 PM Woohoo Poolside smile6 Poolside 02 22 2005 01 50 AM Ok just added the last set of pictures to the original post Have at it Jim kixtand 02 22 2005 09 39 AM Excellent Just when you thought things could not get any better they do Top notch post Kix Rad 02 22 2005 12 59 PM Wow Just saw yur second set of Pics and directions thumb love the Alley oop lol3 Thanks Who can do a pdf of this so we can get it in da Hall 47 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 kbasa 02 22 2005 01 10 PM Quote Originally Posted by Rad Wow Just saw yur second set of Pics and directions thumb love the Alley oop lol3 Thanks Who can do a pdf of this so we can get it in da Hall Done Where would you like me to send it Rad It s
9. hall with the other smarty stuff nod That would have nut n to do with the fact that have an 01 GS with a tick n on the left side lol3 j oh nj en 02 20 2005 11 27 PM we re work n on fixing up the Hall of Wisdom so we can get reports in there faster and this is a choice morsel indeed JJ powderhound5 02 21 2005 12 00 AM QUOTE Poolside Last Saturday a friend and changed the cam chain tensioner on his 2001 GS QUOTE This is better plan My cam chain guide and tensioner snapped at 6 00 RPM behind Mt St Helens in August was passing a car never did get that pass finished The bike was an 03 GS Adc 50 000 miles on it BMW did a total engine swap it was knarly inside That took from early August till mdi December In that time rode a new LT to Mexico and back and got knocked down at Reg Pridmore totaling the LT and now have a Wing guess my cam chain guide tensioner problem was not the one in a million BMW thought it was P5 ea p 02 21 2005 08 55 AM Quote Originally Posted by johnjen we re work n on fixing up the Hall of Wisdom so we can get reports in there faster and this is a choice morsel indeed JJ BTW where is the Hall of Wisdome nowadays I ve wanted to pull up the OVAD for a buddy but don t see it anywhere 46 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthr
10. ider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 13 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Disconnect the Throttle Position Sensor TPS electrical connector 14 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal 15 of 52 ee BZ http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal 16 of 52 Kd Cut the zip tie for the TPS cable http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Remove the throttle body ground lead 17 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Remove the two intake manifold flange screws 18 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal 19 of 52 MANIFOLD FLANGE http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider c
11. ider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Plug in the electrical connector When oriented correctly the electrical connector blocks the injector retaining clip 41 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal 42 of 52 N A http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Job complete A a a h h h h The first start up was nearly silent 43 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Thanks for the props everyone Happy wrenching Jim philschl 02 17 2005 07 42 PM How To uninstall a throttle body Nice one Jim need to take off my right TB for rebushing the butterfly shaft so thanks for the picturesque step by step instruction Phil configurationspace 02 17 2005 07 42 PM Wow Poolside That s beautiful might just change my cam chain tensioners so can use all this wonderful information j oh nj en 02 17 2005 10 27 PM 44 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Jim this is really great My only concern is that bike loo
12. ks way to clean How can such a clean machine need new tensioners D JJ Andrew 02 18 2005 12 33 AM Upgrade At some point would like to hear about the differences between old and upgrade versions of the tensioner What advantage to change Is the new part the only part that BMW sells EDIT Sorry didn t see the other threads doh http www advrider com forums show 48 amp postcount 16 HarveyMushman 02 18 2005 02 37 AM You da man Jim thumb HarveyMushman 02 20 2005 08 13 PM You still da man Jim but where s the rest D kbasa 02 20 2005 08 16 PM This is wonderful Really rc46 02 20 2005 08 29 PM Me god that thing is filthy Is that old varnished gas in the TB Whats with all that carbon in the intake Is that comon with boxers have rebuilt top ends on countless japanese bikes and never seen that much crud even at 100K dunno BTW thanks for doing this It will be a great reference for all thumb Arch 02 20 2005 08 30 PM Yep Rockin how to Jim Duly bookmarked thumb eap 02 20 2005 09 02 PM great work thumb configurationspace 02 20 2005 09 32 PM 45 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Yay Poolside Yay Rad 02 20 2005 10 56 PM Somethun tells me this might just end up in that
13. nation wrench works well enough to loosen the tensioner 26 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 s W Y al WN lai A z t p 27 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Get you a big paperclip and make one of these 28 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Use the small hook to grab the top or near the top of the spring 29 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 First pull down on the spring and then out from under the tensioner body 30 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Here is the spring removal sequence You may get lucky and get it the first time 31 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Use the other end of the paper clip tool to retrieve the piston Make the paperclip vee large enough s
14. o that it is a force fit and will grasp the piston from the inside 32 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Old parts going to the archive 33 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Now it is time to install the new tensioner Start by dropping the piston into the cylinder bore There is no picture of this step The large piston can be dropped into the bore plunk The old piston did not fall into the engine and neither will the new one J ust drop it in This is how the components fit together 34 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 The smaller floating piston can also be dropped into the bore but unless the smaller piston lands right it will be sideways or upside down in the bore To make assembly easier a coat of grease on the smaller piston will hold it in the tensioner body 35 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal 36 of 52 http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 fal Slam dunk Remember the top of the tensioner body must go arm before it can be guided into the bor
15. om forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 MWA W l E ly TA FLANGE Rehab Here is a look at the end of the intake manifold flange 20 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 You will need another special tool 21 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 Make a hangar out of the wire and suspend the throttle body and intake manifold out of the way 22 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 23 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 24 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal 25 of 52 j THROTTLE d GABLE 2 HANGAR WIRE Without stopping to stage photos it takes about 10 minutes to get to this point http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 TENSIONER BODY SECOND SET SECOND SET 17mm combi
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17. spring out from under the tensioner body Go at this with abandon no tensioner parts can fall into the engine from the tensioner bore 2K K K OK K OK OK OK K K Here are the old and new tensioners wae e nS ES m ia SPRING ini PREVIOUS MODEL i FULL CIRCLE NO SPRING UPGRADE MODEL Start by loosening these two intake tube clamps Do not loosen the tube clamp that is located next to the cylinder head 2 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 3 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 These steps are straightforward enough 4 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM ADVrider Cam chain tensioner replacement Photo Journal http www advrider com forums printthread php t 69360 amp pp 40 2 REMOVE PLUG 3 REMOVE CLIP 4 4 a 1 SLIDESBACK INTAKE TUBE Your throttle body o ring may look like it has stretched This one looks pretty good The o ring absorbs hydrocarbon crankcase vapors and swells If it has the intake tube will tear the o ring when slid back over the throttle body This phenomenon is identical to what happens to the o rings on the fuel tank quick disconnects BMW O ring p n 13 54 1 341 797 52mmx2mm___ 3 10 5 of 52 2 24 2005 12 03 PM
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