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1. 7 No Alternator Output Look for a Painted Bracket If you re troubleshooting an alternator output problem before troubleshooting a dead battery or replacing the alternator check if the alternator or the power steering pump mounting bracket has been repainted A painted bracket can interfere with the alternator to battery ground path To check if this is the case ground the alternator with a jumper wire and retest If the alternator charges normally the painted bracket is the problem To restore the ground path remove the paint from the bracket and housing contact areas Look at Ignition Switch Light for Multiplex Mode Test On 98 02 Accords and 99 02 Odysseys the Multiplex Mode Test uses the reminder beeper and the ignition switch light to show the results of various tests When running this test make sure you re looking at the ignition key light it s the lit up ring around the ignition switch not the green immobilizer indicator light in the gauge assembly Use the ignition key light not the immobilizer __ indicator light Starter Relay Buzzes If you turn the ignition switch very slowly to start the engine all Honda models except Passport have this little quirk the starter relay buzzes If your customer complains about it don t spend your time trying to fix it there s really nothing wrong Just tell your customer to turn the ignition switch a little faster and the relay won t buz2. HONDA ServiceNews October 2001 New Software for PGM Tester SN200 The latest PGM Tester software version SN200 7 19 01 was sent to your service manager on the September HONDANET CD To load the software into your PGM Tester use your 8MB program card and the normal updating procedure see the article How to Install PGM Tester Software in the October 98 issue of ServiceNews Here s some important info on SN200 e On 02 Civics all systems are supported except for initialization of the side airbag occupant position detection system OPDS sensors e On 02 Civic 2 doors the VIN entry problem has been fixed e On 02 Passports all systems are supported e On 97 Civics you may run into some glitches with SN200 If you see a DTC P0155 bank 2 heated oxygen sensor displayed it s bogus there s no such DTC for 97 Civics Switch to Generic OBD II Mode you should see DTC P0135 primary heated oxygen sensor heater circuit malfunction displayed If you do diagnose and repair accordingly If you see DTC P0430 bank 2 catalyst efficiency displayed it s also bogus Switch to Generic OBD II Mode and you should see DTC P0420 catalyst system efficiency below threshold displayed If you do diagnose and repair accordingly e On all models SN200 doesn t support side airbag OPDS sensor initialization To initialize the sensors you need to reload software version SN122 or use the manual me
3. can cause window film tobacco smoke condensation dust and especially nontoxic outgassing of the plastics foams and vinyls typically used for vehicle interiors When the inside of a vehicle gets hot these substances form a cloud that sticks to windows Outgassing is common to all new vehicles not just Hondas In fact it s what gives new vehicles that enticing new car smell So what s the best way to remove window film and how do you keep it under control The best way is to mix up a brew of one part white vinegar and ten parts distilled water and apply it to the inside of the windows with a spray bottle Use newspaper to wipe the window clean but keep it away from the upholstery and trim to avoid staining them Keeping the windows clean is important not just for good driving visibility but for effective defroster performance as well To enhance your customer s service experience make it a habit to remove window film as part of servicing their vehicles Tell your customers they can limit window film by parking their vehicles in the shade keeping the windows cracked if they re parking in the sun and making frequent use of the ever popular windshield sunshade There s one good thing about window film though it s not a long term problem As a vehicle gets older outgassing tapers off and the problem usually lessens Power Door Locks Cycle 97 01 CR V 97 01 Prelude On 97 01 CR Vs and 97 01 Prelude
4. f you do see the DTC follow the troubleshooting procedures for DTC P0420 in the appropriate S M and if necessary replace the catalytic converter Removing the Fuel Pump Retainer 01 02 Passport On 01 02 Passports to remove the fuel pump retainer on the plastic fuel tank you need a special remover tool If you ve tried ordering the fuel pump retainer remover J 39763 listed on pages 6C 6 and 6C 11 of the 2001 Passport S M you ve found that the tool number is bogus and you ve had to remove the retainer by whatever means you could think of Help is on the way In mid November 01 all Honda dealers will be shipped the proper fuel pump retainer remover J 39765 Until then if you need to borrow this tool Special Tools has one of them available Call 800 346 6327 Y T FUEL PUMP RETAINER REMOVER T N J 39765 GL6 Gear Oil Not Available for 2000 Differentials The differential in 00 02 S2000s can use any SAE 90 viscosity hypoid gear oil that s API service classified GL5 or GL6 There s just one hitch though Trying to find GL6 in the U S is like searching for Atlantis So take our advice fill up 2000 differentials with GL5 and don t waste your time looking for GL6 Keeping Window Film Under Control Weve all seen it that cloudy film that forms on the inside of vehicle windows especially on new ones But just what causes this film and how can you keep it under control A variety of things
5. s 1919 Torrance Blvd Torrance ooy oAY TECHNICIAN CA 90501 2746 All suggestions become the National Institute for property of American Honda Motor Co Inc AGERVICE sending a suggestion gives Honda permission to SEEE EE A J publish it without further consideration ASN 23219 0110
6. s if the power door locks cycle lock and unlock after you lock or unlock the doors the most likely cause is a faulty driver s door lock actuator To fix the problem replace the actuator Order P N 72155 S03 J11 H C 5196159 Can Odometer Mileage Be Changed to Match Original If you re replacing a speedometer odometer or the printed circuit board it s possible to add mileage to the odometer so the vehicle s mileage stays true You ll need to order a replacement speedometer odometer or printed circuit board and sublet the work to a speedometer shop that s qualified to change the odometer reading If you can t find a shop in your area that can do this work at a reasonable cost here are two shops we re aware of SPECMO Enterprises 32655 Industrial Drive Madison Heights MI 48071 800 545 7910 Palo Alto Speedometer Inc 718 Emerson Street Palo Alto CA 94301 2410 650 323 0243 If you use one of these shops you ll be instructed to send in the replacement component along with the mileage that you d like displayed After the mileage is added you ll get the component back for installation in your customer s vehicle Make sure you check with your state Department of Motor Vehicles DMV for any disclosure requirements You may still need to apply a Mileage Disclosure sticker or provide a True Mileage Is Unknown TMU notification Installing the Speedo Driven Gear 94 02 Passport On 94 02 Passports e
7. ss YES GHIJKL to enter MNOPQR alphabet STUVWX YZ Press ENTER Replacement ECMs PCMs May Give Free Engine Starts Some replacement ECM PCMs are programmed to give 10 free engine starts before you need to use a programmed ignition key These free start ECM PCMs are intended for the production line but occasionally they may get put into parts stock by accident This can cause a lot of confusion at dealerships because these parts look identical to regular parts stock If you happen to repair your customer s vehicle with one of these free start replacement ECM PCMs and it still has free starts remaining when you return the vehicle to your customer the engine wom start after the tenth free start is used up and the vehicle will need to be towed back to the dealership A quick way to check if the replacement ECM PCM has free starts remaining is to plug in the unit reconnect the battery and try to start the engine If the ECM PCM has free starts remaining the engine starts and the immobilizer system indicator comes on steady If the ECM PCM has no free starts remaining the engine doesn t start You must use up all 10 free starts or you can t program the ignition keys with your PGM Tester To use up the free starts just start and stop engine until it won t start anymore WHOnDA ServiceNews ASE 2001 American Honda Motor Co Inc All Rights Reserved Published by AHM Service WE SUPPORT Communication
8. thod described in the appropriate S M Buzz or Rattle Between 1 000 and 2 000 rpm 00 01 S2000 On 00 01 S2000s if your customer complains of hearing a buzz or rattle when the vehicle is accelerating or decelerating between 1 000 and 2 000 rpm check for a missing engine oil fill cap If the cap isn t tightened properly it can fall off and wedge itself between the bell housing and the transmission tunnel A wedged cap can make a noise that can easily be mistaken for a transmission noise So before you start removing the transmission or other components check to make sure the oil fill cap isn t wedged between the transmission and the body Press Brake Pedal Halfway to Avoid Piston Seal Damage On all Honda models if you re manually bleeding the brakes make sure whoever s pumping the brake pedal pushes it only halfway to the floor If the pedal is pushed all the way to the floor you run the risk of driving the master cylinder secondary piston into any sediment or deposits that may have collected on the piston cylinder walls If this happens the piston seals can get permanently damaged and cause a leak j RANS a x R a MASTER g CYLINDER 4a i P 5 SECONDARY PISTON Half way All the way to the floor to the floor SEDIMENT You can also avoid this problem entirely by using any of the brake pressure bleeder equipment available through the Honda Tool and Equipment Program call 888 424 685
9. xcept 2WD models with A T when replacing the speedometer driven gear make sure you install the speedometer driven gear bushing in the transfer case correctly If you don t the nylon gear life is greatly reduced The bushing must be set in the lock plate with the 6 X 7 8 markings on the bushing clearly visible LOCK PLATE it Z A N j INCORRECT Entering VINs Manually Into the PGM Tester From time to time the VIN display on your PGM Tester can be different from the actual VIN of the vehicle you re working on If this happens you need to manually enter the VIN into your PGM Tester Here s how 1 Atthe VIN ENTRY screen press and hold the button then press the YES button VIN ENTRY 2HKRL1 BODO Press 0 9 Other VIN YES 2 Atthe MODEL YEAR ENTRY screen enter the model year of the vehicle MODEL YEAR ENTRY Enter the vehicle model year in full Press ENTER 3 The VIN ENTRY screen appears again Press the NO button to clear the characters listed on the screen VIN ENTRY 2HKRLY BCDEF Press YES GHIJKL to enter MNOPQR alphabet STUVWX YZ Press ENTER 4 Once the characters are deleted enter the VIN of the vehicle you re working on To enter a letter use the arrow keys to select the letter on the display then press the YES button To enter a number press the appropriate key on the number pad then press ENTER VIN ENTRY FNBCDEF Pre
10. z S M Fix IMA DTC 42 00 Insight On page 12 73 of the 2000 Insight Service Manual step 2 of the troubleshooting procedure for DTC 42 motor commutation signal problem incorrectly says to turn the ignition switch to ON AD Step 2 should read Start the engine Missing Pages in 98 02 Accord S M Some copies of the 1998 02 Accord Service Manual may have pages missing from the Restraints section Check your copies and make sure they include pages 23 31 through 23 62 If you find these pages are missing please call Page Litho Inc at 313 921 6880 and ask for Beverly Bennett She ll send you replacement S Ms DTC P9999 Is Probably DTC P0420 99 00 Civic On 99 00 Civics if you see a DTC P9999 on your PGM Tester screen when troubleshooting it means the PGM Tester doesn t recognize a set DTC To find out what the DTC actually is switch your PGM Tester to the Generic OBD II Mode For 99 00 Civics we ve found that most readings of DTC P9999 are really DTC P0420 catalytic converter efficiency below threshold DTC P0420 can also set if there s a driveability problem such as engine misfiring hesitation or low power or if the vehicle was driven until it ran out of fuel To rule out a driveability problem as a cause for DTC P0420 clear the DTC and test drive the vehicle for 15 to 20 miles If you don t see a DTC P0420 on your PGM Tester screen the vehicle s OK and can be returned to your customer But i
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