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1. DISTRIBUTED DESIGN SERIES CEILING LOUDSPEAKERS BRACKETS AND ACCESSORIES GUIDE Accessory Part No D45 CATR D6 CATR D45 FAR D6 FAR D45 NCB D6 NCB D8 NCB D10 NCB Description Can Adapter Trim Ring for D4LP D4 and D5 Can Adapter Trim Ring for D6 Face Adapter Ring for D4 FO and D5 FO Face Only Units Face Adapter Ring for D6 FO Face Only Unit New Construction Bracket for D4LP D4 and D5 New Construction Bracket for D6 New Construction Bracket for D8 New Construction Bracket for D10 and D10SUB DISTRIBUTED DESIGN SERIES CEILING LOUDSPEAKERS BRACKETS AND ACCESSORIES GUIDE CONTENTS Section Page Can Adapter Trim Ring CATR 3 to 4 Face Adapter Ring FAR 5 New Construction Bracket NCB 6 Dimensional Drawings 7 Compatible Industry Back Cans 8 ABOUT WIRING Wiring of the loudspeakers is not discussed in this accessory guide For information on wiring please see the complete Distributed Design Series Ceiling Loudspeaker Installation and Operation Manual at www communitypro com The installer must route the wires and connect them properly before the loudspeaker installation is completed NOTICE Every effort has been made to ensure that the information contained in this guide was complete and accurate at the time of printing However due to ongoing technical advances changes or modifications may have occurred that are not covered in this manual The latest version of this manual and the most recent product inf
2. a second CATR may be deployed on the rear of the ceiling to provide a clamping surface for the loudspeaker If there is access into the ceiling for example by lifting up an adjacent ceiling tile the second CATR may be used without modification Figure 2 Dual CATR s used to strengthen and bridge the gap across an existing oversize ceiling hole CATR Can Adapter Trim Ring lt a gt Existing Ceiling j Tile Rail Bridges D Series Complete Assembly Back Can Showing Drop Stop Tabs Ea i Cid _ The uppermost CATR rests lip up atop the Tile Support Bridge Rails that come with the DDS Loudspeaker assembly the C Ring Support Plate is not used since it is not large enough to cover the oversize hole The Tile Support Bridge Rails provide extra stability The CATR on the bottom serves to trim the hole and it provides a necessary surface for clamping by the flange of the loudspeaker s back can When there is no access to the upper surface of the ceiling the factory supplied CATR must be modified to provide a method for getting the bracket through the smaller diameter hole in the ceiling The solution is to cut a small 20 to 30 degree arc from the CATR as shown in Figure 3 the larger arc is needed for thicker ceiling Tilt the modified CATR slip its cutout over the ceiling and rotate the CATR to position it appropriately as illustrated Make sure that the CATR is pr
3. 7 4mm Holes Typ 984 Typ 8 071 25mm 205mm COMPATIBLE INDUSTRY BACK CANS The following industry back cans are compatible with Community Distributed Design Series Can Adapter Trim Rings CATR and Face Adapter Rings FAR V indicates that the manufacturer back can is compatible Back Can Manufacturer D4 D5 E Model D45 FAR D45 CATR D45 FAR D45 CATR anas 95 8 A Versions _ T 058 7 Al Versions e5810 All Versions T 96 8 All Versions ae ee i es owm es ee xs x08 es o ee NOTE Onsome Torsion model enclosures the internal torsion hardware may need to be removed prior to installing the FAR or CATR Torsion models are sometimes known as Spring models and often have a T prefix in the model number such as the Atlas 195 8 o a C poy poy poy a poy poy ae poy pe So The following industry back cans are NOT compatible with Community Distributed Design Series ceiling loudspeaker products and accessories Atlas Back Cans Any 95 4 Series any 96 4 Series any 96 6 Series 95 12 EZ195 8 CS95 8 and any E410 Series Lowell Back Cans XCP84 XCP87 XCP810 IX610 IX810 CP4 8X and DX104 Community Community Professional Loudspeakers 333 East Fifth Street Chester PA 19013 4511 USA Phone 610 876 3400 Fax 610 874 0190 www communitypro com 2011 Community Professional Loudspeakers 15NOV2011
4. al given is offered on the assumption that common or standard practices for installation used in the construction trades is applied to all phases of the user s project Actual assembly or configuration must be performed only by persons with knowledge of mechanical trades and rigging where applicable Any installation method must be certified by a Professional Engineer licensed in the state in which assembly or configuration is located CAN ADAPTER TRIM RING CATR The Distributed Design Series DDS Can Adapter Trim Ring CATR is intended for use when a D Series ceiling loudspeaker is being mounted in either an existing oversize hole in the ceiling or when the entire D Series ceiling loudspeaker can assembly is being mounted inside of an existing larger industry standard type back can Using the CATR with an Existing Oversize Hole lf the DDS ceiling loudspeaker is being fitted into an existing oversize hole of up to 11 inches 279 mm in diameter or if the DDS loudspeaker is being inserted into a previously installed larger industry back can then you can use a CATR to dress the installation By using two CATR s per loudspeaker you can also add rigidity where it is necessary There are two models of the Can Adapter Trim Ring The D45 CATR is used for retrofit installations of an entire D4LP D4 or D5 complete assembly into an existing larger industry back can or into an existing but oversize ceiling hole The D6 CATR does the s
5. ame for a D6 complete assembly NOTE Before mounting a loudspeaker into an oversize hole using the CATR insert the provided rubber hole plugs into the four countersunk holes on the CATR that will face outward Insert the plugs pull them through from the rear side firmly and cut the excess length off of the plugs from the rear side so that they do not interfere with installation You will not need to use the provided 8 32 screws in this application and you should not need to use the provided clamp extenders When using a CATR to mount a D Series loudspeaker into an oversize hole it is recommended that the user also use the standard tile rails and C ring behind the ceiling whenever possible for the best possible weight distribution and support Rotate the back can as necessary to ensure all of the clamps are oriented to contact and compress the C Ring to the ceiling tile Figure 1 Suggested use of CATR and Standard C Ring being used in an oversize hole gt FSS CATR Can Adapter Trim Ring SS ee eT fa _D Series Complete Assembly Back Can arta Showing Drop Stop Tabs Page 3 The next illustration depicts use of the CATR to mount the DDS ceiling loudspeaker assembly into an existing significantly oversize hole up to 11 inches or 279mm in diameter In this case two CATR s are deployed one atop the ceiling and one below it When it is not practical or possible to use the D Series C Ring and tile rails for support
6. design the Face Hole Plugs fit very tightly and may be somewhat difficult to get into place From the front of the face push the T side of the Plug through one of the oval holes on the loudspeaker face Using pliers finish pulling the hole plug through the face until the underside of the flat flange of the plug is resting flush on the loudspeaker face and is fully within the groove on the face lf interference occurs between the loudspeaker face and the plug flange it is okay to trim off the long sides of the flange to reduce the interference Figure 6 Before mounting the DDS loudspeaker face into the existing industry back can the Face Hole Plugs MUST be installed on the face to prevent air leaks FACE HOLE PLUG INSTALLED T SIDE OF PLUG FACE HOLE PLUG Page 5 Once the Hole Plugs are inserted you may mount the face to the FAR Carefully align the four 4 reinforced screw bosses on the loudspeaker face with the four 4 metal tabs sticking out on the FAR Using the four 4 provided deep thread screws screw through the four bosses on the face and into the metal tabs Doing this by hand may be difficult We recommend that you use a powered screwdriver with a reasonable amount of torque to help get the screws started into the metal Once the screws are started they will finish going in easily Make sure that the outer edge of the plastic loudspeaker face is seated flush against the FAR all the way around the
7. he CATR with an Existing Industry Back Can You can use a CATR to install a D4 D4LP D5 or D6 complete loudspeaker assembly including the back can into an existing larger back can This is the Adapter function of the CATR Leave the existing back can and its tile rails if any in place Using the four 4 supplied 8 32 screws mount the CATR into the existing back can using the existing screw inserts on the can taking care to center the CATR Note you will not need to use the hole plugs in this application Before installing the D Series loudspeaker into the existing back can you must install the provided Clamping Extenders onto the ceiling loudspeaker clamping feet Simply slide the plastic clamp extenders over the metal clamp For the best performance align the outer edge of the extender with the outer edge of the existing clamp Make sure to fold the clamps back against the can before proceeding to install the loudspeaker Once that is completed you can open the Drop Stop Tabs slightly insert the DDS loudspeaker back can through the CATR listening for the Drop Stop Tabs to Snap into position Then turn the Phillips head Can Locking Clamp Actuator screws in the DDS can so that it is secured in place following the same procedure recommended in the Distributed Design Series Ceiling Installation and Operation Manual for standard ceiling loudspeaker installation Figure 4 D45 CATR used to fit an entire assembled D4 D4LP or D5
8. into a larger existing back can Existing Back Can and Tile Rails ech CATR Can Adapter Trim Ring D Series Complete Assembly Back Can with Drop Stop Tabs shown Parts Supplied with Can Adapter Trim Ring CATR D45 CATR 3 Clamp Extender 4 Trim Ring Screw Hole Plug 4 8 32x1 Oval Head Screw White 1 4 5 5 Can Adapter Trim Ring D6 CATR 4 Clamp Extender 4 Trim Ring Screw Hole Plug 4 8 32x1 Oval Head Screw White 1 Can Adapter Trim Ring Page 4 FACE ADAPTER RING FAR The Face Adapter Ring allows a Face Only DDS ceiling loudspeaker assembly D4 FO D5 FO or D6 FO to be mounted into an existing industry back can for retrofit installation The illustration below shows where the FAR should be located when implementing this mounting method Figure 5 Using the FAR to mount DDS loudspeaker faces face only units into existing industry back cans for retrofit installations vie Existing Back Can and Tile Rails if any FAR Face Adapter Ring _ Face Only D Series Loudspeaker Installation of the FAR to the back can is identical to mounting a CATR to the back can see the CATR section on pages 3 4 Before mounting the face only FO model ceiling loudspeaker face onto the FAR the supplied Face Hole Plugs must be installed onto the faces to prevent air leaks Failure to install the Face Hole Plugs may compromise the performance of the loudspeaker By
9. loudspeaker after installation is complete Figure 7 When mounting the DDS loudspeaker face to the FAR carefully align the screw bosses with the FAR s metal tabs ON SPEAKER DEEP THREAD SCREW Parts Supplied with Face Only Adapter Ring FAR D45 FAR 3 Face Hole Plug 4 Trim Ring Screw Hole Plug 4 8 32x1 Oval Head Screw White 1 4 5 5 Face Adapter Ring D6 FAR 4 Face Hole Plug Trim Ring Screw Plug 8 32x1 Oval Head Screw White 6 5 Face Adapter Ring 4 4 1 NEW CONSTRUCTION BRACKET NCB Community offers four sizes of New Construction Brackets NCB suitable for 4 5 inch 5 inch 6 5 inch 8 inch and 10 inch diameter DDS ceiling loudspeakers The illustration below is simply an introduction to the NCB Please see Community s Distributed Design Series Ceiling Loudspeaker Installation and Operation Manual for information on drywall ceiling installation methods pre installation in a new drywall ceiling and inserting the loudspeaker assembly into the back can Figure 8 Using a New Construction Bracket NCB to mount a complete D4LP D4 D5 D6 D8 D10 or D10SUB Ceiling Loudspeaker Assembly in a new drywall ceiling structure Existing Ceiling Framework New Construction Bracket Existing Drywall Ceiling D Series Back Can Page 6 ACCESSORY DIMENSIONAL DRAWINGS The illustrations on this page are NOT drawn to scale They do accurately depict the dimensions of the vari
10. operly centered above the existing hole to provide the best support possible CAN ADAPTER TRIM RING CATR CONTINUED NOTE It is not recommended to use this method of loudspeaker mounting on thin ceilings or those that may sag over time Use the C ring and Tile Support Bridge Rails whenever possible to help support the load of the loudspeaker It is up to the installer to determine if this method of loudspeaker mounting is appropriate Improper use of this method can lead to injury or even death if a poorly supported loudspeaker falls from the ceiling Figure 3 Modification of one CATR in an oversize ceiling hole when there is no access other than through the hole itself Modified CATR being inserted through the ceiling hole to rest above ceiling lt lip up ne Cut one of the two CATRs as shown here so that it can be inserted through the ceiling Modified CATR 20 to 30 CATR Can Adapter Trim Ring D Series Complete Assembly Back Can Showing Drop Stop Tabs shown When you then install the complete D Series loudspeaker assembly D4 D4LP D5 or D6 be sure that all the Drop Stop Tabs of the loudspeaker back can will rest on the CATR i e don t align it so that a tab is above the cut out arc Obviously there is no need to cut an arc in the CATR that sits below the ceiling lip down nor would you want to do so for cosmetic reasons This concludes the Trim function of the CATR Using t
11. ormation published by Community is always available at http www communitypro com Page 2 CAUTION Installation of loudspeakers should only be performed by trained and qualified personnel It is strongly recommended that licensed and certified professional structural A a engineer approve the mounting design WAIVER OF LIABILITY Whenever Community Light and Sound Inc CLS dba Community Professional Loudspeakers is requested to provide advice or material regarding the design or installation of its equipment such advice or material is intended and provided for information purposes only The advice or material is only intended to familiarize the user with various options for design coverage and installation User expressly agrees that CLS shall not be liable for any damages whether in tort contract strict liability or otherwise consequential incidental or otherwise to person or property as a result directly or indirectly of the use of any advice or material The user of any advice or material provided by CLS assumes all risk and liability for the use thereof Without limitation to the above CLS does not accept liability or responsibility for the performance of any manufacturer design method use material or technique employed by the acoustic designer and or installation company All advice information or material is subject to field variations and environmental conditions All advice information or materi
12. ous mounting adapters discussed in this document Please also see Community s Distributed Design Series Ceiling Loudspeaker Installation and Operation Manual for a chart depicting the use of these items with various Distributed Design Series ceiling loudspeaker systems Can Adapter Trim Ring 4 0 177 4 5mm Countersunk holes on an 11 250 285 8mm circle O D 12 750 323 9mm NOTE D45 CATR and D6 CATR have the same OD New Construction Brackets 25 591 650mm D45 NCB 12 0 158 Can Adapter 25mm 180mm I D of D45 CATR aeni 25 591 650mm ENCE of D6 CATR 4 10 157 258mm 10 079 256mm 4 12 0 158 Typ 984 Typ 7 087 25mm 180mm Face Adapter Ring 25 5917 650mm D8 NCB 4 0 177 4 5mm Countersunk D45 FAR 4 0 0957 holes on an 11 250 285 8mm 2 4mm holes on a circle O D 12 598 7 853 199mm circle 320mm 12 047 306mm Face Adapter Ring I D of D45 FAR 8 425 214mm of D6 FAR 9 921 252mm D6 FAR 4 0 0957 2 4mm holes on a 9 331 237mm circle Page 7 ee es oe ee fe ee oe ee oe a 12 0 1587 4mm Holes Typ 984 Typ 7 087 25mm 180mm 25 591 650mm 14 016 356mm fp Ml lMii e Ie 10 0 158
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